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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-10 23:04 [#02101754]
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I was reading rolling stone mag tonight which is celebrating the 40 year anniversary of its inception. You can really tell who is running the show at that magazine. For the last 10 years RS has been reveling in their past. The great irony I discovered while reading the new issue (which is a rare occasion, usually Im reading something very cool like Wire)..Is how PRE- Corporate the wonderfully inventive music of the 60's was and how RS celebrates this fact while also being the most corporate music magazine ever to grace the shelves of your local news stand. Its really quite funny watching these old fogies pat themselves on the back while living their own contradiction.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-10 23:11 [#02101756]
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Basically the world was a better place without Rupert Murdoch, clear channel, and such ilk...but you new that already. I will go even further to say it affects and even stifles the people that reject this paradigm purely through setting the creative tone of the market for music. So the anarchists are REACTIING to corporate music thus making CORPORATE music.
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PS
on 2007-07-10 23:52 [#02101759]
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Everytime I see a Rolling Stone magazine, it reminds me of that grandma from Family Matters. Remember? She was reading it and then she sees us and she hides it. You remind me of her in many ways. Hahaha.
Seriously, I don't think I've ever read Rolling Stone magazine, besides maybe at Metacritic. I'll take your advice though and avoid it like the aids. I don't like these corporate fat-cats any more than you do.
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PS
on 2007-07-11 00:16 [#02101760]
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I'd have to disagree with your "the world" statement though. We have access to more music choices than any other generation in the history of the world. The mainstream music scene just gives people want they want, and I'm sure it has always been that way.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-11 00:19 [#02101761]
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Who is the mainstream ??? The distribution networks have changed my friend.
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PS
on 2007-07-11 00:22 [#02101763]
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I regret these^ two posts. I hope we'll get editing abilites when V2 comes out next year.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-11 00:32 [#02101765]
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What do you mean? I never would have thought I would have inflicted this on someone here...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-11 00:37 [#02101766]
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That sounded melodramatic
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hexane
on 2007-07-11 00:42 [#02101767]
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In terms of "giving people what they want", the music industry now more than ever has had the resources at their disposal to throw at R&D and "cool-hunting" the next big thing. Can you really expect people to know what they want all the time? Not if, to some extent, you are telling people what you want (just like how fashion gets distributed globally). So 'they' are only making worser and worser approximations on what ppl want based on this cyclical mechanism of wrongness
Excellent thread by the way, RS are a god awful example (good for this discussion though)
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PS
on 2007-07-11 00:42 [#02101768]
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The mainstream is whatever is most popular. I understand that the majority of media companies have been bought out by larger corporations. But there are also more options for the public than the traditional media outlets, such as the internet. I'm more frightened for the reporting of news, where you have to have access to information, than music. Now is a good time for music.
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hexane
on 2007-07-11 00:44 [#02101769]
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We have more choices, true, I feel the internet has most to do with this being outside common distribution...the real counter-culture of today resides here and will always to some extent be outside of corporate control
It really is a war against those who love music for the sake of art and the parties who conceive how it can be commodofied
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-11 01:06 [#02101771]
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I don't feel the internet is the saving grace of free thought. Trends, thoughts are set by the big boys with the deep pockets. In the 60's the grown ups felt like aliens. There were few routes for the grown ups to fathom how and if they wanted to profit from Rock and Roll. Unlike today...The internet might be the youths of todays worst nightmare AGAINST the BAYBOOMERS that Bore them!! It depends on who gains control today!!
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PS
on 2007-07-11 01:10 [#02101772]
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Earlier, I meant deleting my own posts. It was a delay mix-up. This is a good discussion you started; I just wish I was better at discussing.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-11 01:17 [#02101773]
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Its very frustrating. Money controls...Even cool money
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