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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 07:55 [#02096693]
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do you understand?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-06-24 07:57 [#02096695]
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-06-24 08:02 [#02096700]
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yes, especially after a nr. 2. in those moments i feel extremely enlightened. and relieved too, btw.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-24 08:07 [#02096701]
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Anal sex is the 'secret' of sex magick.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 08:11 [#02096702]
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if you open your mind to the concept of what you really desire then you will realise that you will never be satisfied. you realise that your life is being run by your subconscious desires. your subconscious is built around the fear of dying (the unknown). for example, when you simulate a scenario in your imagination, you will always think in terms of the worst case (basically the opposite of what you think you want). this fear limits us and prevents us from actually trying / experiencing the world for what it is. in reality, our idea of reality is severely warped. the key is to realising that risk is a construct of fear in the subconscious. there is no such thing as a negative event, only an event in which to learn from. what we normally think of as negative events are completely necessary for our development as a race of beings. please consider some of these ideas. the potential to shape your own existence is within us all. negativity is self destructive. negativity closes your mind off to possibility. the potential is there. unlock it
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 08:12 [#02096703]
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forgot to mention. don't confuse enlightenment with delusion
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-06-24 08:39 [#02096705]
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if you open your mind to the concept of what you really desire then you will realise that you will never be satisfied.
i think the key here is being extremely in the here and now. only in the moment itself you can completely be satisfied. if you're but a fraction later the satisfaction/enlightenment is gone.
being enlightened is about being centered.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 08:52 [#02096707]
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exactly! it's about keeping a balance. too much control would end up in constant contentment ending up in you just wasting away making absolutely no difference to the world.
value is a construct of greed and desire (a destructive negative selfish force for everyone and everything). The irony is that value is completely worthless. All things should be appreciated objectively and you will learn that value serves no purpose.
if somebody said to me, what do you value more, your eyes or your ears? i would say that i value both infinitely (outside of the idea of worth) as an objective appreciation for all things.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-06-24 09:08 [#02096712]
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Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity.
Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without direction from another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolve and courage to use it without another's guidance. Dare to know! That is the motto of Enlightenment
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 09:14 [#02096715]
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your subconscious is completely based on your childhood experiences. when you become aware of your subconscious you can recognise the feeling of self that you remember feeling when you were younger. you realise that the inner child is still within you and has been influencing every single subconscious decision for all your life.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-06-24 09:19 [#02096717]
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You seem to be confusing enlightenment with being a boring cunt on a messageboard.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-06-24 09:30 [#02096721]
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The consciousness is just the material world reflected by the human mind
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 09:37 [#02096722]
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comments like that are only more affirming for me
what i see in you is a lack of humanity
your reality. how your mind works is self destructive to you. you will never be happy that way. but for me, even though i don't want you to be that way, the way you are is completely constructive for me. it simply confirms that what i feel i see is what is actually going on. i know that you would think and say that i am in denial. but the fact i know that and can understand exactly what you're thinking and can still trust it, because i used to be the same, says even more to me.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-24 09:40 [#02096724]
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An enlightened person would patronise another as you just did to Leezo there.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 09:49 [#02096726]
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think about why you just said that
you say i am patronising
you could equally say that he is patronising
and that you are being patronising right now
who is right? in my mind the idea of value is non-existent. i appreciate everything for what it is. equally i appreciate my life, your life, the insult that was sent in my direction. you criticising me is just opening another door for exploration.
in most normal cases i would have responded to negativity with negativity, but now i have learnt that it is possible to always see things from a different perspective and evolve from each and every experience
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-24 09:54 [#02096728]
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shit filled cunt
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 10:05 [#02096730]
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another affirmation for me is that when the ideas do spark a reaction (the negative ones), it completely reassures me, because it lets me know that the ideas must be scaring them into reacting that way. the subconscious is terrified by the possibility of change. leaving the comfort zone. it considers what i am saying and INSTANTLY thinks of the worst case scenario if you were to have my views. then you realise that whenever you think of anything, you always think first of the worst case scenario. then you realise that in life you have missed so many opportunities purely based on the fact that you were too scared of a possible outcome. you can never know anything for sure so why not give it a go? surely if it didn't change you in any way then surely that would be life affirming for you too
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-24 10:12 [#02096731]
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But you're failing because you're just imposing an aspect of yourself onto Lee's, or my, words. This shows in the way you tell him that his mind is destructive. Yet, this is your opinion, not an objective truth.
"your reality. how your mind works is self destructive to you. you will never be happy that way"
Take out the is and use something like appear to me, based on my interpretation your words, to be. This is ePrime,as advocated by the late, great, Robert Anton Wilson.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-24 10:19 [#02096732]
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"whenever you think of anything, you always think first of the worst case scenario."
sounds like projection to me, you might think like this but applying it to everyone is not an enlightened thing to do.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 10:22 [#02096734]
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i am a human being. i am not perfect. human beings are capable of making mistakes. because of this simple fact, it means that it is inevitably going to happen every so often. i didn't approach the conversation with an intention to make somebody feel belittled by me. i thank you for your opinion too. i don't dismiss it. i consider it. my intention was to see if anyone shared these views. for me though i am not ashamed of making a mistake. mistakes are good for me. the word has no negative connotations for me any more because only new things can be learnt
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 10:24 [#02096735]
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well if you were to think like that then you'd already be half way there
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-24 10:30 [#02096736]
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Have you just watched The Karate Kid or something, and you're buzzing off the vibes?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 10:38 [#02096739]
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if you think about stigmas for a second
it is common sense that stigmas are not true. i have found this out from personal experience. stigmas are in place to categorize people and stop them from changing. people are completely unique and you could never become identical to anyone. that's our individual spark. but i do feel that change is so necessary in the world right now. i almost feel like we're evolving backwards. and then if you think about stigmas again, people think of change, they may think of one personality trait which they associate with a certain type of person and then suddenly instantly decide against it because they fear that they will become that person (or at least be seen as one of those people). but if you think about it. if the stigmas are wrong, then the people who you are judging have been completely falsely represented.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-24 11:47 [#02096749]
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Half-assed drug insights; inflated ego.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 11:55 [#02096754]
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i have never felt so humble. i have never cared so much about other people and the potential to improve quality of life
i can't help but feel so deeply saddened by the way i feel and how i am being perceived. the conflict in views is not what it's meant to be about. the talking is a means to understanding one another and working out our similarities as people sharing this world
what is the constant need for negativity. i just don't understand anymore
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-24 12:05 [#02096756]
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What is up with everyone trying to rid the world of negativity lately?
Also, you're saying quite a few things that are similar to a misunderstood interpretation of Jung. You could try reading a few of his books (Though I'd be wary of taking everything he says as truth. He has a few good points, though, if you can overlook the other stuff).
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 12:06 [#02096757]
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the focus on me as an individual instead of the focus on the ideas being presented shows to me just how obsessed people are with the idea of self. it's this concept of me / my / self which is an integral part to the overwhelming success and perpetual destruction of capitalism. people accept it and say, well, yeah ok, it's not great, but it could be worse. i feel that people are shockingly too comfortable with the current state of affairs at the moment
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 12:13 [#02096758]
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we've all got so fucking lazy. everyone knows what's going on. nobody likes to think it because it would mean actually changing something in their lives. it's this unbefuckinglievable laziness which is going to mean the inevitable annihilation of human existence.
you say that i will make no difference but i'm going to do whatever i can. i will not be a fucking zombie with a lobotomy. a fucking domesticated sheep. i'm angry for myself for not making an effort any sooner
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-24 12:20 [#02096759]
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Hey! You're being negative!
- And it's making you do good things.
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OK
on 2007-06-24 12:22 [#02096760]
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I'm hangover and i want a blowjob
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 12:22 [#02096761]
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it's like people feel they have superiority over me because they have the ability to suppress their humanity
it's like everyone knows subconsciously that they're going to die and it makes them go "may as well just have as much pleasure in my life as possible". but the way people go about their pleasure means that people (as a price to pay) have their lives completely ruined as a result of capitalism. you can have a fucking better life than just body highs. why don't people realise that?
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OK
on 2007-06-24 12:22 [#02096762]
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oh and i used to think like you when i was 10.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 12:24 [#02096764]
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and your comment helps because i now understand my mind more and how i can channel certain energies. i assure you though. i never used to think like this. i would never feel compassion this strongly. and that's the part of what i've been going through. changing the way i perceive the world
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-06-24 12:26 [#02096765]
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once again. there's the focus on the individual.
that aspect of our personalities is so bad for us
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-24 12:27 [#02096766]
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It could also be that some people are filling up all their free time so as to not have to think about death.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-06-24 13:09 [#02096775]
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If you were truely enlightened you would understand the very real need for negativity.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-24 13:11 [#02096778]
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Truth: Negativity is a main driving force for change.
World's ugliest dog <3! Have you actually finished any tracks lately? I'm out of new music.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-06-24 13:13 [#02096780]
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Nah, I'm too happy to make music at the moment. :P Next time I get a shit on I will finish something.
You done anything new that I might have missed?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-24 13:21 [#02096784]
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Hahah, I wonder if anything good would come out of installing music gear in the bathroom...
I don't know.. I can just list the latest and you can see...
Lobster Reduction Procedures Pupp Gringo
And some Carlos & Pedro tunes too...
Gripende, carlos Flugel Arlos C
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-06-24 13:23 [#02096786]
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I AM A MAN OF SCIENCE
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-06-24 13:46 [#02096789]
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unbefuckinglievable laziness which is going to mean the inevitable annihilation of human existence.
You say this like it is a bad thing
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-24 13:59 [#02096795]
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If only exoskeletons provided for larger bodies; even the dinosaurs would be no match for giant ruthless insects.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-06-25 01:36 [#02096906]
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jimi hendrix
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cx
from Norway on 2007-06-25 02:36 [#02096916]
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razor, people are different, some people need this, other people need that, it may all seem very logical and true to you right now, but one day you will change and you will realize what you sounded like to people with a different opinion.
your idea of enlightened may not be someone elses idea of enlightened.
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