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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-21 21:42 [#02096006]
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Not sure what to think, but not surprised either.
Rumor has it several artists who were ripped off on Acrnym's latest release, "Flowers," have banned together and jointly sued the label. They settled out of court and this is the result.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-06-21 21:46 [#02096007]
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is there more info about this somewhere? (other than the sublight site)..
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dogvomit
from Cotttage Cheese on 2007-06-21 21:48 [#02096009]
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YESSSS!!!
Fuck Wisp
Fuck Flashbulb
You failed to destroy electronic music, you cunts, take the hint, NOW FUCK OFF!!!!!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-21 21:50 [#02096012]
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The breakcore monopoly is dissolving.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-06-22 00:21 [#02096026]
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i think it's a money problem - come one it's a breakcore label - probably not even that because a lot of releases go even further - now are hard times for such.
i cannot imagine that someone has actually sued acrnym for his releases. the breakcore scene is rather easy going. especially when it comes to the fact that nobody is really "clean" with their chopped samples from movies and other tracks which aren't legal for sure.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-22 00:34 [#02096027]
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Apparently one of the artists who was "ripped off" has a spouse who works for Acclaim videogames. I think the aforementioned breaks, in combination with the unlicensed Mortal Kombat samples, made for a rather dense case against the label. Perhaps it wasnt as much the music style stealing as it was the copyright infringement.
Or so I've overheard...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-06-22 00:38 [#02096028]
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Oh well. Not really much of a loss. Venetian snares was kind of tiresome years ago. He really doesn't need as many avenues to flood the market with as he has.
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gerbik
on 2007-06-22 00:40 [#02096030]
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snares does not run sublight. it's a different aaron...
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-22 00:41 [#02096031]
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Agreed!
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-06-22 05:12 [#02096073]
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what? wait, sublight is closing it's doors? wtf happened
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-06-22 06:04 [#02096082]
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wow, its true. while it could easily be said that they weren't the best label, they did manage to put out some stuff im all too fond of.
so like, where does wisp go now? planet-mu? wisp?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-06-22 08:53 [#02096119]
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woohoo!
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Sano
on 2007-06-22 09:14 [#02096127]
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Midway made Mortal Kombat. Acclaim also went down not so long ago.
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onecaseman
from Chicago (United States) on 2007-06-22 09:14 [#02096128]
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Vorpal and Ra were the only records I liked off the label.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-06-22 09:17 [#02096131]
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nrthndr and honor beats by wisp for me.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-22 09:19 [#02096132]
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I have one less thing to poke fun at now. :(
RIP SUBLIGHT YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-22 10:36 [#02096151]
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- The Richard Devine album was crap.
- Snares couldnt even give them a full length, they got his arsed left over dick diarreha.
- Funkarma's release was like Half-karma.
- 000 and Datachi was somewhat memorable.
- Aside from the new Puzzelweasel, everything else seemed like forgettable cookiecuttercore.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-06-22 10:39 [#02096152]
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IDM SUX
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-22 10:49 [#02096155]
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My god you take this stuff seriously. You do realize I made this avatar to make fun of you, right? You're like some granny fretting over the style trends in lace curtains.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-22 11:08 [#02096160]
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its
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-22 11:18 [#02096164]
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RIP Sublight, you changed the world forever.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-22 11:21 [#02096166]
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Yeah because commenting on the quality of records on an electronic music message board is SO out of character. Give me a break.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-06-22 11:29 [#02096167]
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no it's the monopoly man get it
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-22 11:40 [#02096172]
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Dear Sirs,
I am very concerned about the design of Spock's ears, particularly the lobe area, in the character design of your new Star Trek MMORPG. Indeed I fear that civilization may face a cataclysmic downturn if this crime against fandom is not rectified swiftly.
Live Long and Prosper,
A. Virgin
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-22 11:51 [#02096176]
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Lame.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-06-22 12:06 [#02096182]
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hahahahahahahahaha
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mrgypsum
on 2007-06-22 16:24 [#02096292]
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cautella was great, introduced me to wisp, but that was it.
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lucifer
on 2007-06-22 18:14 [#02096317]
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Everybody download the docu 'good copy bad copy' from mininova (lol). Artists need to rethink their position in the playing field. Since hardcopies will get more and more obsolete, new combinations of artforms must arise. Sublight was illfated from the get go, building on an old dying model.
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OK
on 2007-06-22 18:19 [#02096318]
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more value to their catalogue?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-06-22 23:38 [#02096390]
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The Flashbulb's response.
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HEHEHE
from serious beers (Sweden) on 2007-06-22 23:44 [#02096392]
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fucking in hell ?
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-22 23:53 [#02096395]
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I`m sorry to here that this happened.
Breakcore is good genre, just the BIG GUYS think they are gods, and the little guys are annoying everyone else by making false idols out of these Amen geeks.
It`s also genre that seems to be cloning itself, and some of the quility of music is pure shit.
There is some really awesome new stuff out there, but you have to look past all the MAINSTREAM names. It`s too bad it has such a bad wrap with everyone, it really is a good genre.
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nacmat
on 2007-06-23 03:19 [#02096412]
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its never good news that a label closses down
I bought nice things from sublight, so I dont really understand some posts here
anyway we are still free too talk, and that is also nice
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-23 09:06 [#02096485]
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That was a great read. Suddenly I have this urge to check out the guy's work - if he writes that cogently his music must be worthwhile too.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-06-23 09:47 [#02096488]
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My reaction to reading it was "it took the fumb fucker that long to figure that out?" and made me want to listen to his music even less.
I mean 10 years ago while his friend was getting MP3's off IRC and BBS I was just downloading the bastards off the good old WWW, It is written as though he was exposing some massive revelation, when in actual fact it was a sub-basic economics lecture from the former sublight artist with windows paint graphs.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-23 10:21 [#02096490]
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I didn't realize he was a fumb fucker. That's bloody perverted that is.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-23 10:24 [#02096491]
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"I always considered myself to be a good businessman. After all, I come from a family and area that did nothing but negotiated and haggled their way through life."
Jew.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-06-23 10:38 [#02096494]
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I was brought up not to use words like the d word.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-23 10:46 [#02096495]
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You were raised like vegetables.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-06-23 10:48 [#02096496]
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I don't know how Steven Hawking was raised but I will take your word for it.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-06-23 13:33 [#02096528]
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breakcore is about a good genre as the genre called 'dick in my asshole music'
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-23 14:35 [#02096533]
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I'm surprised you'd rate breakcore as highly as your own productions!
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-06-23 15:55 [#02096557]
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oh you bet i do, dick in my asshole is a compliment because i am a 'bottom' homosexual. My own productions would be rated slightly higher to the level of 'felching cum out of a hairy man's assole music'
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-06-23 16:16 [#02096566]
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You make ejaculating in a man's hairy ass and sucking it out sound so gay.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-06-23 18:03 [#02096611]
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I made more from the limited pressing of a one-time-alias release than I have from my larger releases as The Flashbulb
well, benn, that's because your releases as the flashbulb were shite
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-24 01:12 [#02096663]
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El oh el!
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-24 02:43 [#02096672]
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Oh the love ...
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-06-24 05:14 [#02096682]
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I never liked the flashbulbs music that much, but his acidwolf material is pretty decent. It was an interesting read, but music piracy isn't a black and white issue. He is only seeing it from a single perspective : that people who download music never, ever buy music. Very wrong, but this debate has been done to death so i'll leave it there.
His discussion on the greedy nature of the industry looks to be spot on though. Only an idiot would run a record label now. Oh wait....
Anyway, theres a simple rule which almost always guarentees monetary success - if the music is good enough, it will sell.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-06-24 08:55 [#02096708]
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yeah especially those that focus on sampling other peoples tracks
NUTTERS!
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-24 09:53 [#02096727]
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good. fuck music. i wish it was warp. someone blow up their offices.
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