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offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:10 [#02094516]
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Worst port to the computer ever. The controls are so
backwards that every time an enemy is approaching me I have
to pause it to see what to do in the manual. You would think
they would have factored the mouse into the aiming system,
or even figured to change the in game instructions to
keyboard commands instead of numbered play station buttons.
Waste of money. :(


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 16:38 [#02094530]
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Yeah I heard it was awful, but it's too be expected, Capcom
has a habit of half-assed PC ports, it's very disappointing.
Coincidentally, the supposedly definitive RE4 will be out
for Wii in a couple of days, I'll be buying it for the third
platform and I am Capcom's bitch.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-06-17 16:39 [#02094532]
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What's a port then, lads?



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:46 [#02094535]
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Its when they have a game developed for one system, and they
translate it to another (like resident evil 4 which is a
play station game being set up so it can run on a PC).


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:48 [#02094536]
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I like the atmosphere of this game, just not its gameplay.
The mouse would make aiming so much easier... why keep it
all on the keyboard. Silent Hill 3 had some issues as well,
but its nowhere near as awkward because they integrated the
mouse and the movement comes natural.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 16:48 [#02094537]
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It's adapting software, in this case a game, for a platform
it wasn't originally designed for. Bringing the code over to
spread the love around. But unfortunately not all ports are
lovingly executed. In RE4's case it's because of laziness on
the developers' part. Other times it's because the platform
you're porting over to just isn't suited for the software.

The RE4 port over to PS2 was very impressive considering the
hardware.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 16:53 [#02094539]
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I would assume it was because the game wasn't designed give
the player such pinpoint accuracy. That adds to the urgency,
the very high chance that you can miss. Maybe their logic
was that the accuracy of a mouse would make this too easy,
like shooting fish in a barrel. This isn't an FPS. I dunno.
I'm sort of playing devil's advocate here, they definitely
had a reason. Either way I hope the Wii controls finally
realize the potential of that remote.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:59 [#02094544]
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It does aparently. Which is what made me think in the first
place the mouse would be used for computer. I am not going
to to give up. I will play it for a bit longer before I take
it back.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 17:06 [#02094548]
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If I were you, and I'm not, and I confess I don't want
people playing an inferior port of the best game of the last
2.5 years, I'd buy a Gamecube controller and USB adapter.
Well actually I'd buy a Wii. But anyway. Boo to Capcom!


 

offline Grahf from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-17 17:37 [#02094558]
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i found the game lacked the thing that made previous
resident evils good... it just isnt scary. good game anyway,
bit easy.


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2007-06-17 18:44 [#02094566]
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I'm looking forward to picking this up for the Wii this
week. I love how the controls have changed and the content
from the PS2 version which I never played is included. And
it's only 30 bucks.


 

offline dogbelch from flaming lamborghini (Chile) on 2007-06-17 18:48 [#02094567]
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Good, now die.


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2007-06-17 18:58 [#02094571]
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I'll be dying a lot in the mercenaries mode once I pick it
up. Glad the didn't fuck up the controls like the PC port.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 19:27 [#02094583]
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I bought a gamepad. We will see how I like it this way. It
better be good. However, I have needed to buy a gamepad
anyway, so its a blessing in disguise.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 21:37 [#02094609]
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Well, this makes a lot more sense with a gamepad. I miss
strafing and such, but its OK now.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-18 02:24 [#02094629]
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Anyone played the Wii version yet? The GC one is one of my
all time favourite games and I'm wondering if it's worth
getting on the wii too.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-18 08:02 [#02094695]
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that's disappointing - i don't know why console developers
bother porting to PC if they're not going to try. i know
final fantasy xi had ass-backwards controls for PC too. it
can't be a bad as far cry: vengeance for wii though - it
moves like an N64 game for fuck's sake.

oh well, i'll be waiting on that Wii port of Resident Evil
4. hoping it doesn't suck or capcom is getting shanked. i
don't know how you could possibly screw up such a good game.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-06-18 10:01 [#02094718]
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From what I've read you shouldn't even bother playing the
game without a good PC gamepad. I always read reviews before
purchasing a game for exactly this reason. I would have been
angry had I bought the game expecting to use mouse. That
being said, Capcom is well-established and, I thought,
wouldn't normally skimp on the controls. So in that respect,
you shouldn't have to check a review the make sure the game
will be controllable. Pretty lame, Capcom.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 10:08 [#02094720]
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i played the gamecube version a few months ago and i'm
already itching to play it again so i'll definitely be
buying the wii version.

ceri:

i'd say it's worth the 'upgrade' for possibly even better
controls (the cube controller worked fantastic, but i think
the wii-mote could enhance the whole thing even more), the
whole game being on one disc instead of 2, some extra
features, and a lower introduction price (from what i've
heard).



 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 10:10 [#02094721]
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child810 said it all before.

i might buy this in the UK so i can play it right when i get
back home.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-18 10:13 [#02094722]
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Another selling point for the Wii version is the true
widescreen, the Gamecube version had a cheap letterbox that
looked bad on my TV. Man I can't wait to buy this so I have
an excuse to play it again.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 10:17 [#02094724]
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great. that almost gives me an excuse to buy a
widescreen lcd ;)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-18 10:33 [#02094726]
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Give in to the temptation man, a while back I had to get a
small Aquos after changing up my living arrangements, and
it's so hot, big improvement. The prices are nices on those
things now, and the technology is better.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-18 11:47 [#02094758]
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i know the game is selling for $29.99 USD, and is supposedly
coming with a gun attachment.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 13:34 [#02094808]
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the smallest aquos widescreen is 32" according to the sharp
website.

that is, in my eyes, a rather large TV! And it so happens i
have a samsung 32" (not full hd) on my wishlist. I'm just
secretly hoping my old tv will die suddenly..

Oddio:

that price would be too good to be true. I really have
problems believing that. They'll probably up it if any
attachment is going to be included, which by the way i
thought was going to be a 3rd party product?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-18 14:32 [#02094843]
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They DO come smaller than 32 inches because mine is 26, and
widescreen. It's almost as close as my monitor so it feels
pretty big and cinematic, 26 inches is the sweet spot at
this distance. And I'm biased here but for gaming I
recommend Sharp over Samsung, because when I was shopping
around I was also considering a Samsung or Sony, and found
that they have 8ms response time compared to 6ms for the
Aquos. Important to have that as fast as possible for all
the quick movement you get when playing a game. Anyway just
throwing that out there because it's fresh in my mind.
Samsung is a good brand too, you get what you pay for with
TVs, that's for sure.


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2007-06-18 18:14 [#02094917]
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This ships tomorrow so it'll probably be in stores
Wednesday. I'll give my impressions then. Can't wait. I also
wish i had a widescreen to play this on. : (((


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2007-06-18 21:07 [#02094953]
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I bought a gamepad just so I could play RE4 on the PC. It
certainly is a vast improvement over the keyboard.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-19 08:28 [#02095096]
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trust me, that's the price. i've been eye-fucking it for the
past month.

what's wrong with third=party attachments? nintendo doesn't
need to endorse plastic attachments to the wii remote.


 

offline indeep on 2007-06-19 08:32 [#02095098]
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buy a ps2


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-20 22:54 [#02095658]
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no.
resident evil 4's graphics were better on gamecube anyways.
anyone can tell you that.


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2007-06-21 19:35 [#02095997]
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Just got done playing the Wii version for about 2 hours. The
controls are great. Takes a little getting used to but
really fast and precise. Wish I had a widescreen for it. I
find myself using the knife more because all you have to do
is swing the remote. It's fun.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-21 19:46 [#02095998]
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This adding power glove support to old games stuff has got
me really turned off from the wii. I don`t mean to piss on
your thread or anything, but I`m hoping someone can sell me
on the wii cause It seems boring to me. And I`m sure I`m
100% wrong about that ...

I saw they have call of duty but for the most part I counted
about 12 pixar disney games, paper mario looks awesome, but
thats it ...

Anything good coming out for it?


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-21 19:53 [#02096000]
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No More Heroes looks great! And its by Grasshopper
Manufacture who I think could do some great things.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-21 22:11 [#02096016]
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I'm not at all a fan of Nintendo's direction or the Wii, and
it's funny that the first Wii game to impress me is a port
of a 2.5 year old game. But for me the first-party Nintendo
games to come justify the price of admission. Metroid,
Mario, Smash Bros, etc. Plus Manhunt. Oh, the innovation.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-22 03:10 [#02096050]
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To quote a colleague, "The wii got me back into gaming, but
I miss killing things and realistic driving games, so I
ended up having to buy a 360 too."


 

offline optimus prime on 2007-07-03 16:36 [#02099517]
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the wii is the first console for girls.


 

offline clayhillpeak from Vuh (China) on 2007-07-03 16:46 [#02099521]
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umbrella chronicles is looking to be pretty good, though its
a rail shooter. other than that this game also looks top
notch.


 

offline optimus prime on 2007-07-03 16:48 [#02099522]
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what's wrong with rail shooters?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-07-03 17:30 [#02099538]
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There's nothing wrong with rail shooters specifically, but
thpeaking for me perthonally, I'm concerned about this game
because-

Ay- Resident Evil sidestories/spinoffs like this are always
afterthoughts, the C or D teams work on them

Bee- the RE4 engine was built for the GC and works even
better for the Wii. And RE4 itself works so well with those
controls. But instead of a fully realized new RE adventure
with a new story and new settings and new mechanics, it's
a... rail shooter based on old story elements and rehashed
environments. I realize that Capcom has all their best
people chained to their workstations working 16 hours a day
on RE5 and that they probably can't be bothered to put any
real effort into another true RE game, but... I dunno. They
must have been working on Code Veronica and Nemesis
simultaneously back in the day, and both games were
ambitious additions to the RE canon. I just wanted a more
substantial effort, especially because RE4 Wii is so
wicked.

I think ''Bee'' was all kinds of points in one convoluted
paragraph. I'll find out later, proofreading is for pussies.


 

offline clayhillpeak from Vuh (China) on 2007-07-03 20:13 [#02099606]
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the only thing i have against rail shooters is the item
pickups. say youre playing for an hour or so and youve got
the low health with no herbs (we've all been in a similar
situation, right? right.) so you pass one by but you have to
shoot it while its on the screen, you miss it and youve got
to battle your way for who knows how long. thats the only
problem i have with them. also, they could be filled with
cream. more things should be filled with cream.


 

offline optimus prime on 2007-07-03 20:19 [#02099610]
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if you're getting hit enough in a rail shooter to need a
health item then you've already failed. i once blew threw
panzer dragoon orta on hard mode and my only screw-up was
letting the boss get in a one-hit kill in the final level.
women want to be me and men want my babies.


 

offline gyroscope on 2007-07-08 14:09 [#02101123]
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I just watched this video and thought it was pretty
funny.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-08 15:44 [#02101137]
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bought the wii edition and it pwns, bitches!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-22 10:29 [#02136283]
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I've got 5 stars on The Mercenaries on most of the levels
with most characters (all with Wesker and Krauser, all bar
one with Hunk and Ada). I am still unable to get 5 stars on
any level with Leon though. Bloody girly-haired pinch of
snuff.


 


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