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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:10 [#02094516]
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Worst port to the computer ever. The controls are so backwards that every time an enemy is approaching me I have to pause it to see what to do in the manual. You would think they would have factored the mouse into the aiming system, or even figured to change the in game instructions to keyboard commands instead of numbered play station buttons. Waste of money. :(
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 16:38 [#02094530]
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Yeah I heard it was awful, but it's too be expected, Capcom has a habit of half-assed PC ports, it's very disappointing. Coincidentally, the supposedly definitive RE4 will be out for Wii in a couple of days, I'll be buying it for the third platform and I am Capcom's bitch.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-17 16:39 [#02094532]
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What's a port then, lads?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:46 [#02094535]
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Its when they have a game developed for one system, and they translate it to another (like resident evil 4 which is a play station game being set up so it can run on a PC).
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:48 [#02094536]
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I like the atmosphere of this game, just not its gameplay. The mouse would make aiming so much easier... why keep it all on the keyboard. Silent Hill 3 had some issues as well, but its nowhere near as awkward because they integrated the mouse and the movement comes natural.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 16:48 [#02094537]
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It's adapting software, in this case a game, for a platform it wasn't originally designed for. Bringing the code over to spread the love around. But unfortunately not all ports are lovingly executed. In RE4's case it's because of laziness on the developers' part. Other times it's because the platform you're porting over to just isn't suited for the software.
The RE4 port over to PS2 was very impressive considering the hardware.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 16:53 [#02094539]
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I would assume it was because the game wasn't designed give the player such pinpoint accuracy. That adds to the urgency, the very high chance that you can miss. Maybe their logic was that the accuracy of a mouse would make this too easy, like shooting fish in a barrel. This isn't an FPS. I dunno. I'm sort of playing devil's advocate here, they definitely had a reason. Either way I hope the Wii controls finally realize the potential of that remote.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 16:59 [#02094544]
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It does aparently. Which is what made me think in the first place the mouse would be used for computer. I am not going to to give up. I will play it for a bit longer before I take it back.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-17 17:06 [#02094548]
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If I were you, and I'm not, and I confess I don't want people playing an inferior port of the best game of the last 2.5 years, I'd buy a Gamecube controller and USB adapter. Well actually I'd buy a Wii. But anyway. Boo to Capcom!
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Grahf
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-17 17:37 [#02094558]
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i found the game lacked the thing that made previous resident evils good... it just isnt scary. good game anyway, bit easy.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2007-06-17 18:44 [#02094566]
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I'm looking forward to picking this up for the Wii this week. I love how the controls have changed and the content from the PS2 version which I never played is included. And it's only 30 bucks.
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dogbelch
from flaming lamborghini (Chile) on 2007-06-17 18:48 [#02094567]
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Good, now die.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2007-06-17 18:58 [#02094571]
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I'll be dying a lot in the mercenaries mode once I pick it up. Glad the didn't fuck up the controls like the PC port.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 19:27 [#02094583]
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I bought a gamepad. We will see how I like it this way. It better be good. However, I have needed to buy a gamepad anyway, so its a blessing in disguise.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-06-17 21:37 [#02094609]
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Well, this makes a lot more sense with a gamepad. I miss strafing and such, but its OK now.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-18 02:24 [#02094629]
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Anyone played the Wii version yet? The GC one is one of my all time favourite games and I'm wondering if it's worth getting on the wii too.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-18 08:02 [#02094695]
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that's disappointing - i don't know why console developers bother porting to PC if they're not going to try. i know final fantasy xi had ass-backwards controls for PC too. it can't be a bad as far cry: vengeance for wii though - it moves like an N64 game for fuck's sake.
oh well, i'll be waiting on that Wii port of Resident Evil 4. hoping it doesn't suck or capcom is getting shanked. i don't know how you could possibly screw up such a good game.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-06-18 10:01 [#02094718]
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From what I've read you shouldn't even bother playing the game without a good PC gamepad. I always read reviews before purchasing a game for exactly this reason. I would have been angry had I bought the game expecting to use mouse. That being said, Capcom is well-established and, I thought, wouldn't normally skimp on the controls. So in that respect, you shouldn't have to check a review the make sure the game will be controllable. Pretty lame, Capcom.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 10:08 [#02094720]
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i played the gamecube version a few months ago and i'm already itching to play it again so i'll definitely be buying the wii version.
ceri:
i'd say it's worth the 'upgrade' for possibly even better controls (the cube controller worked fantastic, but i think the wii-mote could enhance the whole thing even more), the whole game being on one disc instead of 2, some extra features, and a lower introduction price (from what i've heard).
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 10:10 [#02094721]
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child810 said it all before.
i might buy this in the UK so i can play it right when i get back home.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-18 10:13 [#02094722]
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Another selling point for the Wii version is the true widescreen, the Gamecube version had a cheap letterbox that looked bad on my TV. Man I can't wait to buy this so I have an excuse to play it again.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 10:17 [#02094724]
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great. that almost gives me an excuse to buy a widescreen lcd ;)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-18 10:33 [#02094726]
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Give in to the temptation man, a while back I had to get a small Aquos after changing up my living arrangements, and it's so hot, big improvement. The prices are nices on those things now, and the technology is better.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-18 11:47 [#02094758]
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i know the game is selling for $29.99 USD, and is supposedly coming with a gun attachment.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-06-18 13:34 [#02094808]
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the smallest aquos widescreen is 32" according to the sharp website.
that is, in my eyes, a rather large TV! And it so happens i have a samsung 32" (not full hd) on my wishlist. I'm just secretly hoping my old tv will die suddenly..
Oddio:
that price would be too good to be true. I really have problems believing that. They'll probably up it if any attachment is going to be included, which by the way i thought was going to be a 3rd party product?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-18 14:32 [#02094843]
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They DO come smaller than 32 inches because mine is 26, and widescreen. It's almost as close as my monitor so it feels pretty big and cinematic, 26 inches is the sweet spot at this distance. And I'm biased here but for gaming I recommend Sharp over Samsung, because when I was shopping around I was also considering a Samsung or Sony, and found that they have 8ms response time compared to 6ms for the Aquos. Important to have that as fast as possible for all the quick movement you get when playing a game. Anyway just throwing that out there because it's fresh in my mind. Samsung is a good brand too, you get what you pay for with TVs, that's for sure.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2007-06-18 18:14 [#02094917]
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This ships tomorrow so it'll probably be in stores Wednesday. I'll give my impressions then. Can't wait. I also wish i had a widescreen to play this on. : (((
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2007-06-18 21:07 [#02094953]
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I bought a gamepad just so I could play RE4 on the PC. It certainly is a vast improvement over the keyboard.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-19 08:28 [#02095096]
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trust me, that's the price. i've been eye-fucking it for the past month.
what's wrong with third=party attachments? nintendo doesn't need to endorse plastic attachments to the wii remote.
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indeep
on 2007-06-19 08:32 [#02095098]
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buy a ps2
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-20 22:54 [#02095658]
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no. resident evil 4's graphics were better on gamecube anyways. anyone can tell you that.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2007-06-21 19:35 [#02095997]
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Just got done playing the Wii version for about 2 hours. The controls are great. Takes a little getting used to but really fast and precise. Wish I had a widescreen for it. I find myself using the knife more because all you have to do is swing the remote. It's fun.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-21 19:46 [#02095998]
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This adding power glove support to old games stuff has got me really turned off from the wii. I don`t mean to piss on your thread or anything, but I`m hoping someone can sell me on the wii cause It seems boring to me. And I`m sure I`m 100% wrong about that ...
I saw they have call of duty but for the most part I counted about 12 pixar disney games, paper mario looks awesome, but thats it ...
Anything good coming out for it?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-21 19:53 [#02096000]
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No More Heroes looks great! And its by Grasshopper Manufacture who I think could do some great things.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-21 22:11 [#02096016]
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I'm not at all a fan of Nintendo's direction or the Wii, and it's funny that the first Wii game to impress me is a port of a 2.5 year old game. But for me the first-party Nintendo games to come justify the price of admission. Metroid, Mario, Smash Bros, etc. Plus Manhunt. Oh, the innovation.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-22 03:10 [#02096050]
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To quote a colleague, "The wii got me back into gaming, but I miss killing things and realistic driving games, so I ended up having to buy a 360 too."
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optimus prime
on 2007-07-03 16:36 [#02099517]
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the wii is the first console for girls.
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clayhillpeak
from Vuh (China) on 2007-07-03 16:46 [#02099521]
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umbrella chronicles is looking to be pretty good, though its a rail shooter. other than that this game also looks top notch.
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optimus prime
on 2007-07-03 16:48 [#02099522]
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what's wrong with rail shooters?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-07-03 17:30 [#02099538]
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There's nothing wrong with rail shooters specifically, but thpeaking for me perthonally, I'm concerned about this game because-
Ay- Resident Evil sidestories/spinoffs like this are always afterthoughts, the C or D teams work on them
Bee- the RE4 engine was built for the GC and works even better for the Wii. And RE4 itself works so well with those controls. But instead of a fully realized new RE adventure with a new story and new settings and new mechanics, it's a... rail shooter based on old story elements and rehashed environments. I realize that Capcom has all their best people chained to their workstations working 16 hours a day on RE5 and that they probably can't be bothered to put any real effort into another true RE game, but... I dunno. They must have been working on Code Veronica and Nemesis simultaneously back in the day, and both games were ambitious additions to the RE canon. I just wanted a more substantial effort, especially because RE4 Wii is so wicked.
I think ''Bee'' was all kinds of points in one convoluted paragraph. I'll find out later, proofreading is for pussies.
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clayhillpeak
from Vuh (China) on 2007-07-03 20:13 [#02099606]
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the only thing i have against rail shooters is the item pickups. say youre playing for an hour or so and youve got the low health with no herbs (we've all been in a similar situation, right? right.) so you pass one by but you have to shoot it while its on the screen, you miss it and youve got to battle your way for who knows how long. thats the only problem i have with them. also, they could be filled with cream. more things should be filled with cream.
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optimus prime
on 2007-07-03 20:19 [#02099610]
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if you're getting hit enough in a rail shooter to need a health item then you've already failed. i once blew threw panzer dragoon orta on hard mode and my only screw-up was letting the boss get in a one-hit kill in the final level. women want to be me and men want my babies.
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gyroscope
on 2007-07-08 14:09 [#02101123]
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I just watched this video and thought it was pretty funny.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-08 15:44 [#02101137]
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bought the wii edition and it pwns, bitches!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-22 10:29 [#02136283]
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I've got 5 stars on The Mercenaries on most of the levels with most characters (all with Wesker and Krauser, all bar one with Hunk and Ada). I am still unable to get 5 stars on any level with Leon though. Bloody girly-haired pinch of snuff.
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