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. It's hard to tell from these bleak shots, but hopefully it will retain the humor and we can kill children. I enjoyed Oblivion for about 20 hours but I could not bring myself to complete it, just too fundamentally broken and I have it for 360 so I couldn't patch it. Not that I'd really want to, Elder Scrolls is so bland, but Fallout, yeah, this could be fascinating if Bethesda learned from their mistakes and nail the style. |
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The glimpses of the post-apocalyptic landscape look great, I mean, who doesn't like a well done post-apocalypse? ''Well done'', lol, they got nuked! Kind of funnyish. |
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source engine it looks like me says. looks good. loved the first two from what i can remember |
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I understand 7% of this thread. |
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*excited* |
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Hey, wait.. bethesda is doing it? And it's 3d? This may be less exciting than I first thought... |
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I like that they explicitly state that they will not reward twitch gameplay, though. There may be hope still. |
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I now understand less than 7%. |
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twitch gameplay? |
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I'm pretty bummed about it. Firstly, the character design for the Muties looks just like Orcs from oblivion with a slight makeover. Despite how hard Bethesda is trying to ensure that this is NOT Oblivion with Guns, I find it hard to believe until they show me some original character design. They say it will feature "violence" to quiet all the apprehensive fans of the original Fallout's over-the-top gore. They do say there will be an exploding head animation, but judging by Bethesdas earlier work, that will probably be the extent of similarities between the old and new. Like Oblivion, most death animations will likely consist of people slumping over to the ground with absolutely no flair. I'm not saying it's because of lack of talent, but rather the insane computation needed to render FO gore in realtime. Also, they've released hype about a portable NUKE rocket launcher. You're thinking low-yield most likely, right? Nope, it's at least a 1 megaton blast judging by the screenshots. The ill-conceived weapon's name? The "fatman." A poor attempt at capturing the humor of the original, if you ask me. Someone at a different website pointed out that there is no chance of the gun going away since it was released with a hype in a press conferance and graphical work has already started on it (hence the screenshot I saw.) I don't think I need to point out how ridiculous a portable nuclear weapon is in a game where you are specifically trying NOT to become irradiated and/or vaporized. I know they will have some clever suit or "radpak" that keeps the radiation at bay, but how exactly do they expect you to use it and then get away from the blast? I'm praying to God that they don't invent some "nuke-blast-proof" suit as well. I'm happy that at least a spiritual successor is being made, but without Turn based combat, isometric top-down view, and insane amounts of gore, this is NOT Fallout 3. Anyone who's played the original games will understand, how could it possibly be Fallout if you can't chop a person in |
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a person in half with the chaingun??* the letter counter doesnt work right, it said I had just enough but then cut off those last words. weird. |
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oh jesus christ, man. |
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Whoops, I forgot you can't express opinions at XLTronic. My fault, I'll go away now. |
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i forgot you didn't know what rational thinking was. |
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Well since you are so gifted, why don't you explain to me what is wrong with anything I said? Maybe you're referring to my expectations for gore in the game? Yes, I know politics always plays a part in it and Bethesda has to get the game onto Walmart's shelves. Doesn't change what Fallout was in the past... |
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It's kind of weird that you seem to be able to so accurately determine the megaton value of a computer game nuke blast from a screen shot... |
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Dude look at the screenshot, he fires the nuke all the way out onto the horizon, and its a gigantic blast. I said at least a megaton, because I've seen enough nuclear blast footage to know that 1 megaton was the smallest size the military used, and that it had a blast comparable in size to the one in the screenshot. Why would you even take what I said so literally? It's a portable nuke launcher, isn't the idea alone retarded enough to forgive my estimation? The resulting LIGHT from the blast alone would be enough to permanently blind every living thing for at least a 5 mile radius, whether their eyelids are closed or not. The only possible way to save face with this weapon will be to end the game with it, meaning no matter where you shoot the blast destroys you too. It's just simply too idiotic otherwise. |
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"Why would you even take what I said so literally?" Well, you seemed to take the screenshot pretty literally... I'm not over-enthusiastic about the idea either, but as they say they're not rewarding itchy trigger fingers, and since you have to watch yourself even when drinking water because it gets you radiated, I'll bet the gun is made so that it's basically reserved for special occasions and a last-resort thing; you'll probably get massive radiation from it, etc, and you'll know this, so you'll probably have to make it a tactical decision when you know you have the resources to pull it off. |
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how many graphic cards do i need for this ? |
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"Well, you seemed to take the screenshot pretty literally..." Does that mean that, when I see a screenshot of the player character holding a weapon that obscures almost a third of the screen, firing off onto the horizon a projectile that produces a nuclear mushroom cloud, I am supposed to assume it is something other than just that? |
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No, but they can probably take some artistic liberties with the effects it produces, plus they can probably say they use less megatons than what the army currently operates with as their minimum charge. |
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I now understand 100% of this thread. |
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Is it because of the hermeneutical spiral, you think? |
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shut up, you drunken bum! |
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hardly ever |
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you people have really odd reservations |
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oh? |
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yeah |
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Hm. |
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Whoa. Well it wouldn't be a videogame thread at XLT... or anywhere else on the internet... without a healthy dose of jaded cynicism, so it's all good. And I share some of your fears. Specifically I'm afraid of the ''attitude'' of the game, and if they can capture the decadent spirit of Fallout. I think it sounds like it's going to play well though, I'm not that worried. I like how they've acknowledged Oblivion's fatal flaws, that's encouraging. I don't want the game to play just too much like the old Fallouts. They're old. Can't wait for the inevitable Deus Ex 3 (anti)hype storm! |
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something weird has happened, but I am a proponent of happiness and I fixed it. |
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I have reservations for Odd. Yes. Hm. |
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9.6 on IGN... anyone got this yet? |
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I'm pretty certain i will be dissapointed, as the only thing that would satiate my lusts would be a fallout 3 with the same graphics engine and a new story. |
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It is an incredible game. I only played it for an hour last night, but already I know it will be my game of the year without question. Runs beautifully too. My only complaint is I have no time to play it and i'm gonna be away on business for a few days tonight. Argh! |
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² I've played it for an hour of 3 and I was stunned. If I weren't at work, I would be playing instead of posting here. The combat system, atmosphere and character building is definitely the way I hoped it would be. It's not just Oblivion in the Fallout world. It's Fallout done by Bethesda. And seeing how Bethesda has grown over the past years this has to be a great ride. |
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Also the combat is great because it forces you to use the VATS (a targeting system Fallout 2 fans will surely recognize.) It's like they made the shooting deliberately hard to keep you from playing this like Oblivion or some shooter. |
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I'm sorry for being a negative nancy last year. thanks for putting up with me, guys. |
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Just dropped in to stir some shit and point out that the bomb used over Hiroshima was a 15/20 kiloton nuclear device. And, to quote World Book encyclopedia: Today most nuclear devices have yields of less than 1 megaton. |
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that's strange, because I googled before posting that earlier to double check and found one website saying it was 1 megaton. maybe they rounded up? |
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I came across this mistake several times. I don't know where it comes from. Maybe people think that 1 megaton is a refernce yield of the first bomb or something? |
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yeah, that's a possibility I suppose. either way, to get back on topic, once my friend is finished with his copy of Fallout3, we're doing a temporary swap, F3 for Dead Space, so I'll have a chance to eat my words soon enough. |
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Game seems good. Feels enough like Fallout in terms of art direction and humor, and the customization is familiar. There still seems to be plenty of freedom. But the right to be evil has always been wasted on me in these games, I can only play as a hero. I don't kill off whole towns or steal from anyone. It's been a handicap for me at times in the other Fallout games. Too bad this game retains the zombie Oblivion faces and horrid animation... I'd like to use 3rd person view in certain situations and environments, but I just can't, it kills the immersion as I gracefully skate over the rocky lithosphere. I'm in the middle of a few other games so I'm not going to go too deep into this yet, but it seems legit. |
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It's the best game I've played in my life (seriously) go for it Ophecks ! |
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Actually now that I'm in the city fighting Super Mutants with better weapons and NPC allies, I figure I'm strong enough to go back and kill some of the earlier mutants that chased me off, and the prospect of revenge has me addicted. Fucking RPGs. |
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I'm starting to feel it, I gotta say. |
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games are boring |
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Recommended System Requirements: Intel Core 2 Duo processor 2 GB System RAM Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA 8800 series, ATI 3800 series) |
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Supported Video Card Chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 200 series NVIDIA Geforce 9800 series NVIDIA Geforce 9600 series NVIDIA Geforce 8800 series NVIDIA Geforce 8600 series NVIDIA Geforce 8500 series NVIDIA Geforce 8400 series NVIDIA Geforce 7900 series NVIDIA Geforce 7800 series NVIDIA Geforce 7600 series NVIDIA Geforce 7300 series NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series ATI HD 4800 series ATI HD 4600 series ATI HD 3800 series ATI HD 3600 series ATI HD 3400 series ATI HD 2900 series ATI HD 2600 series ATI HD 2400 series ATI X1900 series ATI X1800 series ATI X1600 series ATI X1300 series ATI X850 series |
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I have to say this has been a great month for games. I am buying this tomorrow. I am totally stoked that I finally have a good video card now too. Unfortunately I can't rely upon the link to find pictures of the mushroom cloud you guys were discussing, but I think it may have been the one from the beginning where you are supposed to trigger an abandoned nuclear bomb in the middle of a city or something. |
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