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[taxidermist] your question regarding my choice of sampler
 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-13 16:50 [#02093210]
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i would really like to get an Akai S6000 if i can get hold
of the funds....i'd also love to get an Akai S950 to go
along with it for true 12bit crunch

the reason i choose the S6000 is because of the ease of use
no-fuss waveform editing, and the expandability. not to
mention the polyphony and multiple outs (16 individual
outputs if i remember correctly). it would be my main
sampler, so the fact that it can be expanded to 256MB RAM is
a nice option, and i think it can have a hard drive inside
it so you can store the samples on the sampler. i don't
wanna have to arse around with floppy disks or ZIP drives.


 

offline freqy on 2007-06-13 18:33 [#02093238]
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i noticed a few emu ultra samplers on ebay a while back .
so cheap i nearly puked, cause i paid full whack. i think
one fully expanded went for 200 pounds. or sumthing!?

emu filters rule!



 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-13 19:11 [#02093246]
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I got an s2000 that I may have to part with cause I`m
moving. I really don`t want too but make me an offer...


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-14 00:23 [#02093296]
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I would suggest going for one of the newer samplers of you
can afford it. Trying to find a z4 or z8 might be worth your
while, or the roland vp3000 or yamaha a4000 or a5000. They
should all be going for extremely cheap (between 200 - 500).
They are fast, reliable, and should support things like
compact flash and secure data cards, as well as hard drives.
Generally, all of the latest generation studio samplers had
very some impressive technology, and got all but overlooked
due to computers that were becoming useful as all in one
solutions, so they ended up not selling very well. Thus, the
prices on the used market generally are crazy cheap.

I wouldn't suggest an akai s950, because its one of those
things that sound like an awesome idea until you have it,
and then you never end up using it because its more fuss
than its worth. I had one. Used it to sample two sounds over
6 months and then ended up selling it (made a profit tho).

Like freqy said, emu is also a very good choice for used
samplers. They really made an effort to push the technology
ahead at the time, and had very nice sounding filters.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-14 00:34 [#02093298]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Taxidermist: #02093296



thanks for your suggestions Taxidermist, i appreciate you
taking an interest in my gear choices :)

with regards to features, i'm not too fussed about the
sampler's ability to interface with a Mac or PC (for editing
facilities or something like that) since i don't own one,
and will probably continue using my Atari for sequencing.

my one irk about using something more modern is the
filters...do you know if any of the samplers you've
suggested have analogue filters?

i really don't want a sampler that has digital filters, and
as far as i know all of the Akai S- series have analogue
filters.

i still wanna get an S950, and i would take the time to arse
around with it. admittedly i'm gonna get pissed off with
having to use floppies to store the samples on, but i'm
planning on sampling breakbeats with it anyways, so it
shouldn't be a problem.

although my recent output is veering away from sample based
stuff is is going more ambient-ish, so i dunno.

:)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-14 00:47 [#02093303]
Points: 9958 Status: Lurker | Followup to oscillik: #02093298



None of the s series samplers have analogue filters. The
earlier models have an interface that plugs into the ax60 &
ax80 synthesizers so that you can use the analogue filters
on those with the samplers. I don't even think the filters
on anything below the s3000 have resonance.

You will find analogue filters on a lot of the earlier emu
samplers though. It sounds like those are probably the
samplers for you, as the various different options for those
make them more like synthesizers than samplers. Give me a
bit and I will put together a list of suggestions for you,
as I haven't done too much research into the emu samplers.

Another suggestion would be a k2000 with sampling option. I
actually have a bout of GAS for a k2000 right now. Its all
digital, but not in a cheap sounding digital kind of way,
more in that it gives you so many different options you will
be willing to overlook the entire digital signal path
because it sounds awesome.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-14 00:53 [#02093305]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Taxidermist: #02093303



by K2000 i assume you mean it's a Kurzweil? i've heard good
things about them :)

thanks for putting me straight on the S series Akai's - i
could've swore the S2000 and S1000 we had in college were
analogue filters though...then again that was 6 years ago,
and my memory isn't what it used to be.

i'd LOVE an Emu Emulator III ;)


 

offline freqy on 2007-06-14 10:41 [#02093422]
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just a little note

if you do go for an emulator . check that the software
version allows you to automate resonance in real time....on
the older emus you could only alter the resonance each time
a note was struck. and not during the full length of the
note.

the emu e6400 ultra has a large display and is really user
friendly with internal hard drive. I have kept mine for the
filters. i find a nice sample on my pc then transfer it over
to the emu via digital then back again.

im still waiting for an emualtor X torrent to try it out
....its an emu software sampler ...not sure if you need the
emu cards to make it work tho?? should be real cool .

peace:)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-14 11:24 [#02093439]
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I think you do need the cards. All the DSP happens there,
the software is just the interface


 


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