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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-06-10 20:09 [#02092257]
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Anyone see it?
WTF?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-06-10 20:18 [#02092259]
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yeah, painful ending
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-06-10 20:48 [#02092263]
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that was pretty weak....
Mr. Chase what were you thinking?
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gerbik
on 2007-06-10 20:51 [#02092264]
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how anxious were you during that last scene?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-06-10 20:54 [#02092265]
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I thought John from Cincinnati was going to be a fake show and we'd get another hour, but apparently not.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-06-10 21:04 [#02092266]
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I also was hoping for something after the credits started...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-06-10 21:16 [#02092267]
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well made,..makes sense when I think about it,.. but dissapointing.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-06-11 00:38 [#02092287]
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no one else saw it?
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optimus prime
on 2007-06-11 00:44 [#02092288]
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did anybody get whacked?
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2007-06-11 00:46 [#02092289]
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i heard the ending was very suggestive - and sudden.
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-06-11 03:34 [#02092303]
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If you recall the first episode of this season, Bobby tells Tony that when you get killed, you never see it coming and you dont feel a thing. Tony flashes back to this conversation in the second to last episode, infact its the last scene before the finale. Thats exactly what happens to Tony at the end of the finale, the last thing we see is Tony's daughter scurrying into the diner through his perspective, then of course without any indication its lights out, not a sound, nothing...he never saw it coming from the suspicous guy who entered the bathroom ala The Godfather.
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Sano
on 2007-06-11 05:27 [#02092322]
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That's a good theory but who would want Tony killed at that point?
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pf
from Finland on 2007-06-11 05:31 [#02092326]
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which episode was the one that ended with the family having dinner in the new house or something, i though that was the last episode, but it seems it was a season break, what was the number of that episode? I would really appriciate if someone knew.
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-06-11 05:34 [#02092327]
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Sano, i suspect Paulie had already set up Tony, atleast most clues in the episode seem to point at Paulie double crossing him.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-11 05:35 [#02092328]
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Did it pack a hefty emotional punch?
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Sano
on 2007-06-11 05:50 [#02092340]
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Yeah Paulie and Tony didn't seem to end up well last time they showed, I also think Tony's dead why else would they show a silent black screen? It was one intense build-up that's for sure.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-11 06:44 [#02092359]
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Yahew on the last episode
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-11 19:44 [#02092676]
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I thought that was beautiful.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-12 11:01 [#02092813]
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It was great and poignant. That whole sequence was loaded. I'm confused as to why there's been so much negative feedback.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-12 11:07 [#02092816]
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Me too, man. I thought it was great. So tense, but in an understated way. I loved it. It tied things up in a way that felt natural and ended it (imo) succinctly.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-12 11:15 [#02092820]
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I think people were after wanton bloodshed. Even my pacifist aunt seemed really disappointed to not see Tony get perforated with bullets, James Caan-style.
The gas station scene was enough for me!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-12 11:16 [#02092821]
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Although I've never watched an episode of this, I have DownLoaded this last episode and will watch it later on.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-12 11:24 [#02092824]
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That's what I did marlowe.
Although, I have seen the entire 2nd season, then skipped right to the season finale
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-12 11:53 [#02092826]
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Haha, Journey- Don't Stop Believin' is in the top 40 on itunes, just like that.
I downloaded it on a whim too but I didn't pay
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-12 12:05 [#02092828]
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i've been whistling it for the last two days.
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mimi
on 2007-06-12 17:37 [#02092934]
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yes, exactly
pretty intense last two episodes for a show that prrrretty much sucked real hard since season 5 ended!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2007-06-12 21:07 [#02092955]
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jesus christ! i was shitting bricks all the way through, especially the last scene. totally brilliant.
btw, is he dead? :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-21 11:42 [#02095821]
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- Just watched it. Certainly the tension grew after that one guy was shot in the head on the garage forecourt. When Tony Soprano's son was getting in his B.M.W. I was ½ expecting it to blow up when he started the engine.
I didn't find the ending made me believe the family got whacked.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-21 11:56 [#02095826]
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Tony Soprano sleeps with the fishes.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2007-06-21 13:02 [#02095847]
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I thought it was a nearly perfect ending. Pretty depressing when analyzed. Tony's life completely falls apart.
We have:
- Tony about to go to jail because the guy he replaced Vito with flipped.
- Carmella finally giving in to Tony's way of life and seemingly appreciating the spoils much more than the risks as she only appears to care about her lavish lifestyle by the end. Any moral dilemma's she once had seem gone.
- The crushing of A.J. whom went from trying to break free from the family only to be railroaded by Carm and Tony. As soon as they give him his fancy car and new job with Lil' Carmine, all his ideals went right out the window. Now he's part of 'the family'
- Meadow following Carmella's, bury your head in ths sand, lead, gives up her noble pursuit of helping the poor via medical school, and instead is on her way to becoming a mob lawyer. She deludes herself into thinking it's necessary to help prevent the sterotyping and oppresson of Italians. Not to mention she is engaged to the son of a made man.
- Tony is essentially alone as Paulie is going nuts, Silvio is in a coma, Junior's lost all memory, Bobby's dead, Chris is dead, Dr. Melfi is history and Arte has been out of the picture for awhile.
I think, when in that context, it's a great ending. Tony's choices, personality and lifestyle destroys both of his familes. It's shown that no amount of therapy sessions, philosophy changes, post gunshot epiphanies, peyote trips or any amount of duck visits, can change him. He is what he is. Self-centered and depressed. In the end he takes his whole family down with him.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-21 13:07 [#02095849]
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Who set up the hit?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-21 13:25 [#02095862]
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TONY SOPRANO. In a sense. Lol.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2007-06-21 13:33 [#02095871]
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There was no hit.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-06-21 13:48 [#02095876]
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It was like an allegorical ''hit''. I don't know. And reading your post reminded me I have to watch some of the later episodes because I don't even know what happened with Artie Bucco.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-21 14:05 [#02095880]
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Well, they certainly strong case that Tony was getting hit and since almost the entire epic was told through his eyes having the abrupt nothingness was an apt way to end the narrative of his life... even if they didn't explicitly show it, they certainly wanted the audience to suspect that he was likely hit.
In which case, my question could be reworded "who would've set up the hit"?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-06-21 14:15 [#02095881]
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I don't know if the cut to black represented a hit. To me, it could just as easily signify simply the end of our privileged voyeuristic view of his world and that WE are the ones in the black, with the plug suddenly pulled, not Tony Soprano.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-06-21 14:21 [#02095882]
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did anyone here read that massive fucking review of the last episode that was posted on digg a few days ago? the guy was a massive windbag but he made about 50 interesting observations.
i doesn't really bother me either way what ultimately happened to tony. i guess i like the idea that he was killed because that it is sortof sad and puts a lump in my throat even though he was basically a scumbag.
either way though, the finale was excellent TV imhotep
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mimi
on 2007-06-21 14:43 [#02095886]
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Yeah it was a wonderful finale. When I saw it I had no doubt that he was dead, but it's kind of nice that they didn't show it or anything so people who were opposed to a hit can make their own conclusion. I wish the show overall hadn't gotten so clumsy though. It was such an insanely amazing show but then they started adding too many dumb characters and wasting episodes on them...
I agree with herbwest, nobody in the family did the right thing in the end of it all. Still, you get kind of attached too all these people after so many years of watching them that it's a little jarring to have that be the end of it!
*cries*
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big
from lsg on 2008-03-24 06:08 [#02187782]
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if the end does mean he's taken out it was alluded to way before in this season with the hit at which Silvio was present: that was represented through the viewpoint of this main charactere as well
it's depressing in any case, tony apparantly being a psycopath now killing christopher
but it's a morality tale (says imdb). shit leads to more shit
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