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hey guys im working on a new track, and its come to the time to start mastering it. now im not exactly an expert, ive been making tracks for just over a year basically guessing my way through it. my latest tune is deffinatly the best ive written so far, and so i want to get it mastered as best i can (as a learning experience as much as anything)... im trying to make it sound less 'flat' basically. now ive heard of several phrases that i understand in theory, but not in practice... ive been using a program called Har-bal to try and get tonal balance on the track (as tutorials have been guiding me), but the song just doesn't sound as good when i have balance. basically on the spectral analysis, initially the track starts heavy on lower frequencies, lesser on the higher frequencies. when i correct this using methods that ive learned, the effect is noticable, and it is easier to hear more of the track, but as a trade off it loses a lot of its atmosphere and sounds a lot more hissy (like its playing through an old radio). has anyone got any tips? |
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Use which sounds best to your ears. Why are you trying to tonally ballance it? Is it because you think its expected or because you think it will actually make the song sound better? The best way to make something work and give yourself the headroom you need is to use phasing tricks on the lower frequencies, and slight panning on the higher frequencies. This way you can avoid over-EQing your track just to stop it from clipping, and start mastering your track so it sounds good. Another thing, don't try to make it too loud. I like to master quietly. You want to hear it loud so that you can notice errors on louder systems, but in the end it should be up to your listeners to decide how loud they want to hear it at. |
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just slap on 2db or more with a maximizer and your done |
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to an extent i knew this was the answer i was going to get :). after i clicked post i realised that it was pretty bloody obvious! i think to an extent i thought maybe balancing it would help it to sound less flat... but then again, the results are here for me to hear! lol thanks for the advice, the track should be pretty much ready soon enough, if you would like to hear it. its almost pleasent, which is a first for me. heheh |
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post it yeah |
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Unfortunately there weren't too many more of these. |
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post the track man |
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ok, its up... it's called 'nihilistics'. feedback welcome... |
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it's cool i think the levels are ok. great writing there buddy. |
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i think the panning of some instruments doesn't sound too great on my headphones, too hard maybe, i don't know |
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get rid of that kick drum, get something a bit louder and longer, woodier, put reverb on that sid-sounding lead.. take the chorus off of the background-lead/string thingy... just my $.02! |
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if it was my tack i'd also take the panning off of the snare. i think that makes it hard to get into the track, i dont know why. i think you should use more sounds in your drum set, too. have them louder. do you have all your drum sounds on one EQ? that's kinda what it sounds like, that's kinda bad. i think you should go back and seperate them all and kinda give them their own "space" |
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Listen to as much music as you can from all walks of life! And Practice !!! |
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cheers for the feedback... nothings final like, i'm deffinatly willing to backtrack if ya it will help... although not tonight obviously! haha ill post how it goes eventually. nice one |
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*think |
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Shuddup. |
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Snare more to the centre of the mix or a compensation sound on the other side could help a bit. |
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IMO, your foundations should never really be panned around much. Its the audio equivalent of having a moving star background on a web page. If you are going to be panning any of your beats, either try to stick mostly with your rhythm/percussive sounds (cymbals, hats, rides, toms), or keep the panning consistent (like if it starts at 25% right, keep it 25% right through the song, and use the same amount for the kick and snare at the same time). IMO, beats should mainly create a foundation for the other sounds to fall into, so shouldn't steal the attention away from the listener, therefor should stay relatively simple. |
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You can pan drums, but always make sure you compensate on the other side or else each hit can make you feel like you're being dragged to it... listen to old "stereo-was-just-invented!!!" recordings: they work just fine even though all the drums are on one side... |
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You can do whatever you want. That doesn't make it tasteful. I did mention that whole "stereo-was-just-invented!!!" style of production as the second bit in my first paragraph. Personally, I love hearing it. You don't hear people getting that excited over technology anymore (or if you do it seems to be done because its expected, not because the producer wants to do it). My criticism was more for things that are panned left to right and all over the place. |
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Yes, Cyrus' (of Random Trio) new album uses this on a few tracks. Essentially the bass and drums (even HH and other higher pitched drums) are pretty much centred, but with a bit of stereo field. Then, every once in a while, there'll be some unique sound that crops up hard panned and it sounds like it's coming from miles away and it's magical. |
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right... less panning (esp on certain drums)... reverb on lead... less chorus... drums on channel each... stronger kick... this is all good feedback! cheers. i like it because i only have to change bits of the production rather massive chunks of the tune. |
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right.. ive made some of the changes people have suggested... ive move the core drums so that they have their own space, ive removed the panning from the core drums, put some reverb on the lead, less chorus on the strings in the background... calmed some of the panning on the instruments down. i tried to find a stronger kick but they all sounded far too ... overwhelming, personally i prefered the old one so i left it in :) anyway, its up at to be honest, ive no idea if it sounds better. ive heard it so many times now its all just merging into one in my head. haha. enjoy. |
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You seem to really like Plaid. I think the kick drum sounds fine, it doesn't need to be any louder or heavier. |
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to be honest i dont listen to all that much plaid... maybe i should |
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Yes. I think it might give you some inspiration in the right direction for your style. Listen to rest proof clockwork. |
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