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Quoth
from Sweden on 2007-05-15 13:32 [#02084189]
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ATTN: anyone using an Evolution UC-33e, Mr. Quoth has a question:
Can one CC knob control multiple instruments ie; MIDI connected devices such as an Elektron SPS-1 or Yamaha AN200? I would very much like to be able to control multiple functions with one knob and have a lot of those knobs but you know what I mean?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-15 17:00 [#02084238]
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i doubt that you will be able to do this without any additional soft.
eventually you could try it like this: solder yourself some midi cable splitter that you have one plug on one side and two plugs on the other side so that the same signal goes thru them both and connect those to your two boxes - now a turn of a knob sends it's value to both boxes. but i guess you want to use the knob just one time for every box right?
now - it depends on the hardware if it'll work or not: you have to search if the boxes have an option like "master midi channel" the x-station has this option for example.
make the machinedrum master midi channel "1" and the an200 midi channel "2" so now the machinedrum will only get messages from the first midi channel and the an200 only from the second.
now make two presets on the uc-33 - on the first preset the knob sends its value on channel one and on the second preset it sends value on channel two - voila! now you control one box with the first preset and the second box with the second preset.
but there is only one problem that might spoil the whole thing and that's probably the reason why nobody does it:
you see - when you control one box and let's say you are controling the machinedrum and you are turning the knob to the hard left. now you change the preset to the an200 and you turn the knob to the hard right. now when you change the preset back to the machinedrum the knob position is false and it will punch in the new value...
that's why the behringer bcr2000's are so cool - encoders. with those you can control as much gear as midi channels you have because the value of the knob will just pop into the right position when you change the preset.
hope that was at least a bit clear
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-05-15 18:33 [#02084272]
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Quoth: sadist knows everthing, I know nothing. did you see tools in C.B or did you get a ticket for Sewer City, me neither :(
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2007-05-15 20:23 [#02084303]
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It depends on the gear. In theory, yes it is certainly possible to control multiple devices with one knob. You just need to figure out how your gear needs to be set up. I use logic, so its very simple to make an object in the environment window that routes the midi signals. im sure there is a way to set on your hardware "receive incoming midi on channel: " and if you are running all of these midi connections together or through a hub like a midi time piece, then you can send that signal to all ports, and each synth will receive those midi messages.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2007-05-15 22:32 [#02084339]
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I understand, but it just seems so difficult to program. I am lost with all this gear and not enough friends to actually sit down and jam with on it. And express these ideas.
Anyone watching Jay Leno and this fucking 10 year old annoying ass bitch?!?
WTF.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2007-05-15 22:38 [#02084341]
Points: 3840 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #02084238
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Also,
To back up my audio/midi routing capabilities, I currently have running on my two main computers one of them being a XPC 2.3GHz 2GB DDR2 XP PRO sp2 w/Ableton Live 5.2.2, REAKTOR 5, Absynth 3, FM7, Nord G2 editor, and etc... point is the options to route audio has triggered certain thoughts about controlling more of the detailed samples you are making and want the listener to concentrate on.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2007-05-16 04:54 [#02084434]
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if you just need the knob to send the same data to multiple gear, just use midi thru conectors
if you want to do like sadist say, it's probably easier to buy/use another controller
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-16 05:37 [#02084451]
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or just by yourself: www.ucapps.de
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2007-06-25 11:46 [#02097011]
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i've been much more interested in this THE MONOME 40. But the UC-33e has come in VERY, VERY handy especially when you need more automation recording inside ableton.... it has been a life saver to mixing in infinite tracks since using it.
please check out the monome :) i NEED this.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-06-25 12:05 [#02097017]
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old news mate - but have you seen the price ? jeez they have a bit overdone it.
depends on how you would use it - the whole cropping-samples-daedelus-like-playing can be easily done in reaktor with w midi kontroler consisting only of illuminated buttons.
and the rest actually too
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