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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 17:55 [#02081206]
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It's heaven. Go and get it, and listen from beginning to end.
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-09 18:36 [#02081230]
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he's really Brian Tregaskin
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-09 18:52 [#02081234]
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He's amazing in general, Une Barque Sur L'Ocean might be my favorite piano piece ever.
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The_Shark
on 2007-05-09 18:53 [#02081237]
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Good for you, sensitive boy.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-09 19:00 [#02081244]
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Sup, Dan?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 19:03 [#02081246]
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You just crossed the line. Pissing off the notoriously ruthless Ophecks, even a little bit... even looking at him the wrong way, could very well earn you (and probably many others as collateral damage) a B7 bloodbath of unimaginable gore.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 19:07 [#02081248]
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Oh shit! "Sup, Dan?" is his war cry! He is very pissed. You know how sensitive he is about being called sensitive, which is a paradox because he's sensitive about not wanting to be called sensitive. He can't help that he has two pairs of every sensory organ. He even carries around a spare heap of skin and sometimes whips it at people just to see what they feel like.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-09 19:15 [#02081254]
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I'm completely devoid of ruth, I'm one crazy NIGGER. Yeah, you read that right. You think I give a shit? I'll say anything.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 19:29 [#02081262]
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Just calm down Ophecks... we understand that you are a being of pure rage and if you need to release it, we would be grateful if you can just do it in a solid beam of fury on dog belch alone and spare the rest of us. Please don't start another world war like you did last time.
Speaking of which does anybody know when WWIII is going to be released? One and two were great but they're getting old and I really need some new material.
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The_Shark
on 2007-05-09 19:30 [#02081264]
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Sup Jas?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-09 19:38 [#02081272]
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MC LuRve Area I: "Da Phist Hotel, N.C."
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-10 10:18 [#02081487]
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Bullshit.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-10 10:37 [#02081506]
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Check out Tomita's version.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-15 18:49 [#02084280]
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Listening to it now, having downloaded it.
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-05-15 19:19 [#02084283]
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I listened to this a long time ago and thought it was boring. I don't think much of Ravel.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-15 20:18 [#02084298]
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When I first heard it I thought it was dreadfully boring, but then I listened to it again recently and realised its awesomeness. Some pieces of music seem to behave like that more than others.
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-05-15 20:54 [#02084313]
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I don't mean to seem like I am better than others, but this music is very unsophisticated, which is where the bordom comes from.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-15 20:59 [#02084315]
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Well, out of interest, what would you consider sophisticated? I thought the orchestration of this piece in particular was pretty stunning. I don't particularly like the ending section, but apart from that it's a beautiful work.
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-05-15 21:32 [#02084329]
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For me, it is emotionally empty and very awkward musicianship wise. Although I am very young, I have always listend to classical music and have formed somewhat stubborn opinions about this genre in general.
I cannot stand that horn in the second movement. It's very clumsy, as the whole piece is to me. I'm not sure if this makes sense, but it's to tribal for my ears. It's sort of icky.
But this is no way a judgement of those who like it like yourself.
BACH = sophistication.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-16 10:52 [#02084528]
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Bach = Boring + Samey + Too technical
There's no emotion in Bach's music, I guess this is the Baroque standard but I can find a lot more emotion in Vivaldi's, who was also a Baroque composer.
^BTW if that's wrong (which it might be) my whole music GCSE education has proven itself pointless.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-16 11:04 [#02084536]
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That is the biggest load of shit I've ever read concerning Bach. Looks like your amazing GCSE is worthless.
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blrr
from the block on 2007-05-16 11:10 [#02084539]
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Vivaldi is indeed baroque. However, it is my opinion that Vivaldi is far more the boring, samey, typically baroque composer than Bach ever was. Though I am not a huge Bach fan I do find that getting into his music comes with time. Try listening to some of Glenn Gould's piano interpretations; they are a bit outlandish but they worked for me.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-16 11:15 [#02084541]
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Or better yet, listen to Rosalyn Tureck's performance of the Well-Tempered Clavier... beautiful stuff.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-16 11:47 [#02084561]
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Not a big Bach fan but his best organ work has as much feeling as anything I've heard, at least from that era, and a lot the best pieces aren't overly technical.
But I do have a bias against stuff like the Brandenburg Concertos and Handel's Water Music, because of traumatic call center exposure to them.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-16 11:53 [#02084568]
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To be fair, call centres only really use 2 bars from one of the Brandenburg Concerti. I recommend you get them regardless.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-16 12:16 [#02084586]
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Mine seriously used 2 or 3 movements from each, among other things. I've heard them in their entirety, and while it sometimes feels like I'm having a flashback to the 'Nam, I don't really think they're my kind of music anyway, a lot of Bach's work just doesn't move me. And some of it blows me away, mostly the religious stuff... can't say he's without emotion or whatever.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 00:21 [#02084725]
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When I listen to the Brandenburgs, i just hear exactly the same thing over and fucking over.
Alright, he's made a few masterpieces, but I find a lot of his work to be the same.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-17 05:47 [#02084786]
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Well to be honest, the Brandenburgs aren't my favourite, I was just replying to Ophecks about them.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 06:03 [#02084791]
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Perhaps we have a difference in taste. I've always preferred romantic and 20th century composers, as well as medieval church music; while I can appreciate the complexities of baroque and classical music, in general they don't do much for me (apart from some of Bach's compositions and a few religious works.)
I don't understand how you can find that piece "emotionally empty", personally! It's like the floodgates have been opened; it's an outpour of emotion. It's a bit anywhere and everywhere, but that's what I'm after sometimes. I like it when music goes off on tangents and indulges in a bit of fantasy.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-17 06:26 [#02084799]
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Surely you like Mozart, Haydn, and Handel?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 06:54 [#02084807]
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I do-and the "Nelson Mass" and the "Requiem" are two of my favorite pieces of all time-but in general I prefer to listen to later composers....Debussy, Tchaikovsky, Sibelius, Rimsky Korsakov, Messiaen, Bela Bartok, Dvorak, Stravinsky, Vaughan Williams, Shostakovich, etc...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-05-17 06:57 [#02084811]
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Emotions emotions emotions.
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Q4Z2X
on 2007-05-17 10:15 [#02084853]
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Ravel seems to have an element of the unexpected in his music, whereas some of the older classical composer's music seems to be an exercise of scales or something... too cut and dry, predictable and un-memorable.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-17 12:24 [#02084899]
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Yeah, I guess they were written as background music for pretty much the same purposes and places, so they should be the same.
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