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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-05-06 13:59 [#02079984]
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Pioneering instrumental rock which later came to be known as "kraut rock". Songs ranging from the most blissful, epic, ethereal to experimental musique concrete-ish reworkings. Their best songs are some of the best music I listen to.
They released three albums during their original life span - Neu!, Neu! 2 and Neu! 75 - all of them are recommended.
This is an appreciation thread
c",)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-06 14:01 [#02079985]
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sounds like some einstuerzende neubauten ripoff
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leftblank
from manchester/dublin on 2007-05-06 14:23 [#02079986]
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no
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-05-06 14:34 [#02079990]
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EN were at kindergarten or still at scholl when Neu! were recording
Neu!, Faust, Can - great pages of german music history
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-06 14:54 [#02079997]
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wicked - i know a lot of EN and can but have never heard of neu!. must have missed this page. what should i start with ?
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rad smiles
on 2007-05-06 15:11 [#02080004]
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start with Neu! then go to Neu! 2 then Neu! 75. in that order. it makes sense. they're really amazing.
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rad smiles
on 2007-05-06 15:24 [#02080007]
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if you like Neu! you should listen to Harmonia. its michael rother of Neu! with Cluster.
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-05-06 15:30 [#02080009]
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Sounds interesting, I will
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-05-06 15:50 [#02080015]
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first of all, comparing EN [experimental music ?] to Neu! [kraut rock ?] is kind of strange, but.....well
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rad smiles
on 2007-05-06 15:51 [#02080017]
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who compared them
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-05-06 15:55 [#02080020]
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lol... u
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rad smiles
on 2007-05-06 16:15 [#02080028]
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LoL I DID NOT!!!!!!!111111111
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-06 16:30 [#02080031]
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come on EN don't have just a experimental face. i was thinking about their more melodic works.
but actually i might be wrong if what i'm thinking about is really considered being "kraut-rock"
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-06 16:38 [#02080034]
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okay i haven't found any source that would link EN to krautrock
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-06 16:42 [#02080036]
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okay i acutally WAS wrong thinking i would knew what can be considered krautrock
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-05-06 16:48 [#02080041]
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you've learnt quite a lot about music history tonight ;]
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-06 16:49 [#02080043]
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krautrock is almost the most important genre there is.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2007-05-07 00:51 [#02080209]
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Neu have never really done it for me. i like Zuckerzeit era Cluster and Harmonia a lot more.
but as far as kraut rock goes, Can blows everything else 15 storeys out of the water. unfortunately. it's a tease, y'know?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-05-07 02:03 [#02080220]
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I'm a fan boi too. And yes, Neu can be labelled pioneers.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-07 07:49 [#02080265]
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People!
Where should I start with Neu? What's some of their best stuff?
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rad smiles
on 2007-05-07 12:59 [#02080344]
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find neu!. its a white album with red NEU! on it. hallogallo starts the album off.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-05-07 13:54 [#02080350]
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Three albums: Neu, Neu2 and Neu75 listen
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-05-07 15:53 [#02080365]
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Neu is nothing compared to Can and Faust
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-07 16:10 [#02080370]
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Nieuow
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-14 11:35 [#02154142]
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hi futureimage did you ever get into the Neu! ???????
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-12-14 11:52 [#02154152]
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I forgot to check out Harmonia
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-12-14 12:38 [#02154162]
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I think Brian Eno was in Harmonia or at least on some albums.
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-14 12:45 [#02154163]
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yeah he was on their last one i believe
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-12-14 12:51 [#02154165]
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This came out in 98 as a tribute to Neu! Features: Rother, Autechre, Download, DVOA, Pink Dots, James Plotkin and others doing versions of Neu! tracks.
Mark Spybey (DVOA. Reformed Faction, Download et al) was also a member of Sofortkontakt!, which was Michael Karoli of Can's late project before he died in 2001.
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-14 12:56 [#02154166]
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well now ive got to hear autechres take on weissensee. is it any good?
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-14 12:58 [#02154167]
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im not finding anything when i search for Sofortkontakt! did they release anything?
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-12-14 14:20 [#02154187]
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The Awtecher remix is brilliant
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-12-14 14:58 [#02154206]
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I never heard anything by that project. Just read about it in Spybey's blogs and Can related sites. I had a little more luck finding references when I searched for Michael Karoli.
Yea I remember liking the Autechre track on there. I need to give the whole thing another listen.
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-14 15:24 [#02154212]
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all of this inspired a nice loud playing of Tago Mago.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-10 09:54 [#02173601]
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Finally listened to some stuff. Neu '75 is currently my fave, the longer more "motorik" tracks are pure brilliance.
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-10 10:05 [#02173606]
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yeah! good stuff
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-10 10:59 [#02173617]
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Typical rubbish that you say without knowing anything.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-02-10 11:31 [#02173625]
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ihave to agree with QRDL, ive never found the appeal of NEu they always sounded to me like a very cheesy kraftwerky version of the kraut rock i had grown to love.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-02-10 11:32 [#02173626]
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im not big into neu (yet) either...can and cluster on the other hand...i love those..and popol vuh..and a bunch of other krautrockers.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-02-10 11:32 [#02173627]
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Schal, isnt that Autechre 'remix' actually a cover of that song and completely made from scratch or is it a literally a remix?
i was under the impression it was a cover, but i could be wrong
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-10 11:42 [#02173628]
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If you can find the ealy concerts of Neu with ralph and Florian playing you'll be converted straight away. I tried to find it on this computer but it's not there. There's ana amazing live set that starts with a few synths that sound like a cross between vowels and raw synths.
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2008-02-10 11:46 [#02173629]
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I don't know. It's not actually called a "remix" anywhere, so it could might as well be a cover.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-02-10 11:53 [#02173630]
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i'll have a look..i imagine it must have been something closer to harmonia and i like them quite a bit..
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-10 12:08 [#02173635]
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its more like what youd think of as neu! than kraftwerk or harmonia. instrumental jamming, etc.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-02-10 12:17 [#02173639]
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i see...it's weird really..i normally like that sort of disharmonic harmonies, but neu just seem so very detached of (pleasurable) emotions..and i imagine synths add something on that end..i hope i can find it
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-02-10 13:57 [#02173658]
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so now that were on the subject of kraut rock what are some other good or memorable bands from the Faust/Can/Neu era? Im not too familiar with the genre. People have recommended to me 'this heat' and hawkind but the stuff ive heard by them hasnt gotten me in the mood really
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-02-10 14:23 [#02173667]
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I just find them more predictable than Can and Faust. I've got oversaturated with music similar to Neu! in high-school. Granted it was from the 90s and it shouldn't prejudice me against the grandpas of noise-rock, but it was still very alike and I just can listen to Neu! without those connotations.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-02-10 14:49 [#02173676]
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do you know kluster/cluster, roedelius solo work, popol vuh, ash ra tempel, amon duul,? check some of that is you don't know it yet.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-02-10 15:57 [#02173697]
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oooh amon duul and ash ra temple i have heard of both of them but totally forgot to check them out. Yes i am a big fan of Cluster, but only really heard their pre Eno esque ambient stuff, not their rock any particular albums i should hear?
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-10 16:29 [#02173705]
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Zuckerzeit!!!
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