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offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 02:32 [#02078716]
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Is there any way to automate a time signature change in
FL?

If not I fear I may be reaching the limitations of this
saucy little program. Sad days...

Thankz guyz xoxo


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-03 02:42 [#02078719]
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Yes, you can. Right click the tempo 'lcd', then "edit
events". There's another way to do it too, but that's
longer/more complex.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 02:52 [#02078726]
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Wicked, cheers Ceri! It was giving me brain lesions jumping
from 5/4 to 4/4 and back again manually.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-03 02:57 [#02078727]
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You're welcome. Yeah, working out the programming for
different time signatures/tempo manually is possible, but it
doesn't half make your head hurt. ;)


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-05-03 04:18 [#02078755]
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the very best song of all time that alternates between 5/4
and 4/4


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 17:33 [#02078992]
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If you right click the tempo, surely that will only control
the tempo, not the time signature?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 17:38 [#02078995]
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On the step sequencer, in the top-left corner, there is a
little box where you can set the time-signature for that
particular pattern.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 17:41 [#02078999]
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youre shitting me?! what version are you using?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 17:45 [#02079004]
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Fruityloops studio 5. If you want a bar of 4/4 followed by a
bar of 5/4 then just set it to 11. Obviously you can't split
it into quavers (e.g. 7/8) which is a bit of a shame,
although maybe you can if you change the root in Song Info -
try it out :]


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 17:49 [#02079012]
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oh shit yeh i know what you mean. how many beats there are
in that bar as opposed to the whole time signature.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 17:55 [#02079016]
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i have just checked and Ceri JC is a smelly liar. that does
just change the tempo. it appears I was right and there is
no way to automate the full time signature.

WHY GODS WHY?!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 18:24 [#02079045]
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here is a little 2-bar loop I put together - 4/4
then 5/4. [4-5 Signature]


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 18:26 [#02079048]
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If you're wanting a static time signature throughout, then
it's just a question of hitting F11 and then going
into General... no way to automate it using the Graph
Option, but it's not too much of a hassle using the Step
Sequencer.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 18:28 [#02079051]
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crazed bongo slapping goodness!


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 18:30 [#02079054]
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this is all stuff i know. i desire more complex changes
sometimes though things like 5/4 -> 6/6 -> 3/4 etc. I will
work as I have always done for now :)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 18:33 [#02079058]
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Sorry - I thought you would be familiar with the Project
Settings, but just thought I'd check :]

6/6 is just two lots of 3/4 - You'll just to convert crazy
time signatures in base 4 - like 7/8 would be 14 (14/4 which
is two lots of 7/8).

Since most time signatures have a root of 2/4/8/16, it's an
easy enough conversion - and if you use the Playlist, you
don't have to use a full bar, you can overlap another bar
over the top, if you see what I mean.


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-03 18:37 [#02079061]
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you could also make seperate wav's of the 4/4 part(s) and
5/4 part(s) of the track and paste them together using
wavelab or some sort


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 18:40 [#02079065]
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Also, you could compose in Sibelius, import the MIDI file to
FL, and it should automatically do the time-signatures.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 18:42 [#02079066]
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yeh 'overlapping' is how i do it at the moment. Just looks a
mess in the nice rows of boxes!

Fah: I do that a lot anyway, quite a few of my tracks are
different versions of the same thing stitched together in
Audacity afterwards. (see the first track here.
when it drops to 4/4 thats a 'overlapping' and when it goes
to the outro/intro to next song thats a 'stitch')


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-03 18:57 [#02079075]
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then why the question?

:D


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-03 19:01 [#02079084]
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hahaha because i want to do it all in one file rather then
have to do those things :)


 

offline OK on 2007-05-03 20:01 [#02079110]
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play it like it's different? it's all about the accents


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-04 00:17 [#02079134]
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Go into options and change the number of steps to every bar.


 

offline big from lsg on 2007-05-04 02:00 [#02079168]
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ceri is a bfl


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-04 02:13 [#02079170]
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Whoops! You're quite right Marlowe, I misread the question
(I thought he wanted tempo and time signature changes) and
ommited to mention about having to alter the programming
based around which time sig you wanted to use and that the
tempo change would help you do this.



 


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