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What do you lot think/use/like? I've had the Korg legacy collection for some time and IMO it's excellent. + the MS-20 midi controller gets you interested and twiddling! |
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Native Instruments Pro52 |
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Native Instruments Pro52 |
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As far as native instruments is concerned, Massive is the shit. The unfiltered basic oscillator types sound very close to analogue, and the modulation settings are fantastic. The filters still sound too much like software synthesizers unfortunately. I have yet to find a software filter that sounds anywhere within the same country as my Frostwave Resonator or my Moog LP filter. |
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i havent touched any soft synths since i got my nord micromod, though before i got it i was using FM8 quite a bit |
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Operator is my favourite probably, I use it in almost everything. Pro-53 FM7 Arturia Minimoog and Moog Modular (and most of their other stuff really) are great. |
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Also very good some synths from the Creamware plataform, but they only work on their hardware, so... |
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Absynth is incredibly versatile. A lot of people think it's only for long evolving pads, but you can use it for most things. It's probably my favourite overall. Z3ta+ is similarly good. Massive is superb, probably my favourite virtual analogue synth. Reason's subtractor is one of my favourite basic synths. With a few FX and a bit of automation of parameters, you can get suprisingly good results from it. It's nice for making analogue drum sounds too. |
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"The filters still sound too much like software synthesizers unfortunately" is this really a problem or just a preference? |
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also I use axs for windows, an old dos synth but you'd be suprised how good it can sound, |
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I forgot Audiorealism Bassline, wicked 303 emulator. |
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Well, its a problem for me. Seeing as the topic is a suggestions thread, I think we can take for granted that every single suggestion here is going to be a preference. A better question would be why do I not prefer the sound of software synthesizers? And my answer would be they are too crisp, perfect, skinny, boring. All software filters kind of sound the same, only real difference being warmth. In most of the analogue filters I have used, you can really tell the difference between them. They have their own signature. Most software sounds the same. That said, for some reasons 303 emulators seem to have an extremely characteristic sound to their filters, so they are usually OK by me. |
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I forgot to add the bleh bleh bleh and meh that should precede all my posts that are me saying the same stuff I always say. |
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Talking of filters, I found with the KLC that the filter on the MS-20 remained very accurate even under heavy resonance. There is none of that nasty digital stepping you often hear in a poor soft synth. |
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linplug alpha sytrus synth1 all the novakill synths crystal minimogue |
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I fucking love the Legacy. I get lost with the MS20 controller, I love it when the machine takes over the performer in that way. Do some experiments with SynthEdit, you can make some pretty top notch stuff if you have a look round for homebrew modules/add ons. |
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reaktors got some beauties. like carbon too. get some lfo-age on the wave selection and then pitch down. lots of lurvly quips and qurkleydoodoos there. |
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FM7 with the solid bass patch imported. ohyes |
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- Korg Legacy collection - Legacy Cell is probably my favourite at the moment. - Pro 52 : not bad, but kinda put in the shade by Legacy Cell - sounds much thinner and flimsy in comparison. - Edirol Orchestra & Hyper Canvas - Space synthesizer - Rainbow Synth - B4 (ace organ vsti) - Juno X2 - Mercury - Muon Electron - Slayer 2 (mainly just used it for FX) - String Studio - The tb set of vst - Tritium bass - the Krakli set of VST (pretty good!) |
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i am absolutely in love with absynth, the total versatility you can have with it... start out somewhere and end up somewhere you thought this little soft synth would never in a gazillion years be able to achieve... absynth does it in like 2 minutes. only if you know how to operate it... i think it takes some getting used to. |
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Does anyone have this problem with the Korg collection in Fruityloops - the 1st note in the piano roll does not play (literally the first note - if it comes in, for instance, on the 2nd beat it plays fine). If I import as a wav file, I have to shift it to the right so I have the first note. |
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i had the same problem. the solution was to use it through live. |
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Use it thru Ableton you mean? |
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yeah ;) |
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Hmm, I do have Ableton but it seems like such an ordeal to go thru, and I imagine it puts extra pressure on my CPU? |
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the legacy pack runs a LOT smoother thru ableton. for me at least anyway. i was suprised by this. when i use the 5th preset thing it crackles and distorts thru FL. it doesn't when i use ableton. it's not a very scientific approach but.... |
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...i'm not a very scientific person. |
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yea |
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Oh that sounds pretty cool, actually - cos I have sometimes noticed crackles etc - thanks for the tip :] Do I load FL into Ableton as a VSTi? |
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you could maybe route it via ReWire, assuming that FL allows that, i havent used it since 1.74 |
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I don't use soft synths. i do occasionally use vst fx on sounds. The way I operate is almost all sample based, so I will sample a synth more often than not. I'm very much into musique concrete style found sounds, which I sometimes do FFT trickery and things with the computer, which is not possible with analogue means. I mostly use the computer for cooledit waveform precision editing and using recycle to slice loops before sending to the sampler. I do sometimes mess around with a very old version of reaktor and generator, but again this will be sampled into my akai. My very old (1997ish I think) reaktor and generator are absolutely fantastic. You can accurately model a lot of the nuances of analogue gear by summing the CV lines with noise sources and tiny amounts of LFO, etc Shove it through some outboard fx and onto 4 track and it can sound rather splendid. I guess it isn't everyones cup of tea, because you have to have quite a knowledge of synthesis and some time to build up a decent sounding synth. Speaking of which, I may be building an analogue synth from scratch to my own design in "real" components over the summer. Keep you eyes peeled for an exciting zilty topic if I get round to it. |
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Yeah, I had to put a note in before that at minimum volume so it started it up. |
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Keep us updated. That sounds like an interesting project. I am going to be starting my first DIY project with a Paia Fatman that I ordered two weeks ago when it comes in. |
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Yes. You can also use it as a vst plug. |
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i never got chance to mess around with too many modern soft synths back when i was software based, but i really liked Operator in Ableton Live - i'd never really messed about with FM synthesis before, and i liked the interface on it. not to mention the sounds were pretty nifty. i liked pretty much all of the Arturia soft synths, but i mainly used Reason back then. |
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I do like Operator. The fact that you can use it as both verstile FM and normal subtractive set ups is very good. Also, 4 oscs is great. |
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finally downloaded the mono/poly upgrade for the legacy collection, such a great sounding synth. |
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I use only 2 really, reaktor and zebra |
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Phoscyon Nepheton Drumazon best soft synths of their respective hardware emulations i've ever heard |
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ive used all of the above quite a bit, but the ones i like the most are, for abstract/fx: massive, reaktor, absynth . for more unprocessed melody/beat stuff: minimonsta, hypersonic (haha) helix, z3ta, predator, blue.. i have maybe a total of 100 vst synths though, and i use them all randomly really.. |
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oh and i forgot to mention operator. ive used that quite a bit lately too. |
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so have you had a go with zebra cx? it seems basic at first, but it's fairly powerful for it's size |
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besides the obvious native instruments synths i highly recommend: vaz modular - and absolutely rare but totally awesome modular synth which i use a lot. it's lightweight for the cpu and has some really powerful sounds. z3ta+ - 90 % percent of the basslines you hear in your favourite dubstep tracks are made with it. pendulum makes all his sounds on it. it rocks. korg ms-20 - i use it in nearly every track for making basslines, sometimes i just add it to a bassline made with anouther synth - it's in my opinion the most analogue sounding synth out there. siac (synth in a box) ensemble for reaktor 5 (from the ni page) - jesus the guy who made this is a freak - this synth sounds so raw and ugly i can use it for hours. |
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Fahpoly 4.5 FahM Synth 5 FahM Drums Fah Drums Fah303 Fah System 1 Fah Modular 12 Crazy Fah sampler Crazy Fah gated delay Crazy Fah gated reverb Crazy Fah filter Crazy Fah samplehammer |
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SuperCollider. |
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