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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-26 01:48 [#02075974]
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the past couple of days i've been watching louie theroux's weird weekends - and i have nothing but good words for that guy. a clever interviewer who is extremely sharp - he manage to get under the skin nearly every time.
which one of his weird weekends episode is your favourite? i think mine is either "the most hated family in america" or "wrestling".
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 02:01 [#02075978]
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I already made a thread about him a few weeks back :]
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-26 02:02 [#02075979]
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well, this is an appreciation thread, not "just" a thread about him.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 02:04 [#02075980]
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I believe mine was a thread of appreciation, too.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-26 02:08 [#02075983]
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im sorry, but this is a REAL appreciation thread. go elsewhere with your fake appreciations.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-26 02:09 [#02075985]
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favourites - neo-nazis, most hated family, or thai brides.
he's great.
i've exhausted my collection of weird weekends though, so no more theroux to distract me from the coming exams
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-26 02:11 [#02075986]
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i havent seen thai brides or neo-nazi, i think im going to watch one of them tonight.
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2007-04-26 05:06 [#02076033]
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i watched one of the dvds the other day incedently, my fav so far has to be the africa one, in fact all are great, i love the way he forms these bizarre bonds with the people he is documenting,
utter genius so he is, he can expose most sub cultures as a pure sham
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-26 06:58 [#02076071]
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africa! now there's something unexpected.
gotta find torrents of these proper dvds..
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zero-cool
on 2007-04-26 07:25 [#02076075]
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thai bride was great, and haunting
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2007-04-26 07:58 [#02076082]
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I love this guy. His shameless technique is brilliant!
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-04-26 08:01 [#02076083]
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I think he's brilliant - so funny. The only one that disappointed me was the Black Nationalists one - because I felt he kept asking stupid questions that played into their hands. It didn't offer any real insight because of it and he looked intimidated.
Otherwise, generally excellent - I hope there's more to come.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 08:03 [#02076084]
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Is that the one where they said that Beethoven was black?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-26 08:20 [#02076086]
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its bound to happen really, with that style it cant go right every time.. eventhough i must say, he is usually incredibly sharp.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-04-26 08:40 [#02076088]
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Yep, that's right Marlowe.
What I do like about him is how he gives his subjects just about enough rope to hang themselves. These people he interviews are so ignorant, if he pushes too hard they'll kick him out - so he's extremely amenable and clever in that respect.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-04 17:17 [#02256954]
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man, the philadelphia episode is crazy.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-04 17:24 [#02256955]
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eye opener.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-04 17:26 [#02256956]
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looking forward to the johannesburg one. my momma lived there!
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-04 17:29 [#02256957]
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got to say tho, didn't find the philly one telling me anything i didn't pick up from training day/every film ever with a gansta rap soundtrack. louie didn't ask very good questions imo. btw didn't you think some of the ambient soundtrack to this one was quite nice?
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-12-04 17:31 [#02256959]
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It was brilliant, a genuinely objective view of the situation. He managed to show the problems from both sides never criticising either but ultimately left the viewer with the chance to make their own mind up with major faults in both the police and the citizens highlighted.
It was an eye opener in the respect that you could tell that everything was operated on the most frigile state of equalibrium and it was something understood within the fabric of the community.
Louis is the king of probing yet non judgemental questioning.
Next week's looks just as good.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-12-04 17:33 [#02256961]
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It was Boards of Canada.
btw, I disagree about the questioning...he had to tread a very thin line as the police would have just refused to take him out if he appeared critical of them and the residents were quite clearly nervous of potential repercussions. Given the sensitivity of it all I think he handled it expertly.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-04 17:41 [#02256968]
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i need to listen to more music.
hmm. but he repeated questions and i didn't find myself thinking 'i never knew that' or 'that's interesting'. the god hates fags one was excellent cos he used his britishness perfectly; charming and deceptively naive whilst poking at them until they said things that really laid them open. he is a great guy but just didn't use his talents on this one imo
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-12-04 17:47 [#02256970]
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He looked really nervous through a lot of it. I think because it was a look at 'real life' it was never going to be the same as the wierd weekends. I actually found a lot of the police responses very interesting. You can see most of them viewed themselves as far superior to the residents and ther ultimate goal is not freedom and liberty but the establishment of a police state.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-04 18:00 [#02256978]
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really?! the police seemed really safe to me! some police are real bullies.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-12-04 18:04 [#02256980]
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haha they weren't going to do it overtly on camera for the BBC now were they!
The young white uniformed officer had a particular attitude, as did the members of the 'elite' squad. The Chuck Norris wannabe "Hunter" was as dodgy as fuck, reminded me of a character from a film years ago.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-04 18:06 [#02256981]
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i guess. fuck da police
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-12-04 18:16 [#02256982]
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what svalx said.
so many good docs, the gangsta rap, the jimmy saville - hamiltons - max clifford episodes, the san quentin, most hated family in usa, south africa etc.
top man.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-12-04 20:12 [#02257035]
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thanks for enlightening me about his existence
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-12-04 20:29 [#02257042]
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I like him. I shall have to pick up a proper DVD as I've only seen him on youtube.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-04 20:31 [#02257043]
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you can watch the philadelphia one on bbc iplayer now. dunno if it works in us tho
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-12-04 20:39 [#02257046]
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ah, cool. Thanks for the heads up. Going to watch it now.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-12-04 20:41 [#02257047]
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damnit, it looked as though it was going to play but then I got that popup.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-04 20:45 [#02257048]
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sorry, i thought it might do that.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-12-04 20:47 [#02257049]
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No worries, you gave me fair warning. I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-12-05 01:14 [#02257073]
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Join thebox.bz - if signups are closed, e-mail me for an invite. They have all of Louis' stuff there, and lots more.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-05 02:43 [#02257100]
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the one where he meets max clifford is my fav. clifford is such a cunt.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-05 02:44 [#02257101]
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LAZY_TITLE
the end is brilliant.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-05 03:38 [#02257104]
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I like the swingers one, it's funny..and i like how he takes the piss so well, but in a way which doesn't get him into too much trouble..
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-05 03:39 [#02257105]
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do americans use the term 'take the piss'? just curious.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-05 05:42 [#02257130]
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Jimmy Saville.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-05 12:48 [#02257250]
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I am also a big fan, I think he plays stupid incredibly well and it pays off very effectively.
Which Boards of Canada songs were in the Philadelphia documentary?
Also, I think his style was influenced by Nick Broomfield, who's documentaries are equally amazing (Biggie & Tupac, Eileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer, etc) so I recommend you check them out too.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-12-05 14:17 [#02257262]
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Thanks for the heads up! I am now an official member of TheBox. :]
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-12-05 17:22 [#02257296]
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i just watched the most hated family in america and it is a little odd the way he tries to bring his subjects to his point of view instead of trying to really talk and understand it's kind of condescending, and i don't think a filmmaker should assume his subject is wrong
but it's kind of cute, and it's interesting
i've seen some other stuff and it was very good, though the thai bride thing was great i need to see more
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-12-06 12:54 [#02257443]
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If I remember properly he seemed to be on his own little mission to 'save' the teenage girls and children in the hated family one? Interesting but not one of my favourites I have to admit.
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big
from lsg on 2008-12-06 13:06 [#02257445]
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well he thinks that headguy is just ill with this hatedisease. not many others are going to try and save the girls, so he feels it's his duty as a compassionate human being to do this.
imo it's not forbidden for a documentary maker to have an opinion and out it.
i think he's very sweet and it's funny he seeks out these kind of people therefor
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-12-06 13:36 [#02257448]
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i said it wrong, it's perfectly okay for him to express his opinion
in fact it's better, more honest but trying to convert his subjects to his point of view is kind of lame
we know they're wrong, we know they're hated, and he doesn't need to add to this
there's a scene in particular where he doesn't understand what is being filmed
when someone throws a cup at a kid protester in a voiceover, he says something very trite, to the effect of
"this reminded me that the victims of the church are also their own children"
so, bleh, it's not just the children, it's horrible for everyone and he kind of ruined the images
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-12-06 13:53 [#02257450]
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I sent some links to my friends and besides a "haha" at the gangsta rap one, all I got was angry responses. My ex-girl said that Louis is evil and psychopatic and that he enjoys hitting where it hurts. My brother said the same. I don't know what to think now, I honestly thought that Louis couldn't have been more humanistic in his approach if he didn't want to sacrifice showing a significant part of the picture.
I blame the guy with a jar for desensitizing me.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-12-10 20:34 [#02258221]
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You don't really believe he's psychopathic, do you? Which episode was she referring to?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-11 05:03 [#02258244]
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in the most hated family one i don't think he was unprofessional, he got answers out of those girls. one of them had doubts and i think he was interested in that. it was some of his best work.
the philly one was a bit crap. i don't know why people felt it was hard hitting ect. also the police were not trying to bully or enforce themselves for the sake of power. they were everything i'd expected; weary, frustrated, disheartened, but ultimately good people (even that one that was like jack scagnetti from natural born killers!)
the joburg one was brilliant. louie's technique was better, the subject was far more interesting and surprising (louie seemed much more in his element here). there were so many great bits like that badboyz firm, that bit when they went mental on that guy and pepper sprayed eachother (that's extreme police). that massive mob who wanted to BURN that man (he was sooo african).
anyway there were so many great bits that were really interesting to see. i felt like this doc had a lot more to think about than the philly one. watch it.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-12-11 13:50 [#02258336]
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If I remember correctly it was the Thai Brides one.
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