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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-07 15:34 [#02070267]
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11. A 13-year-old was served an order banning him from using the word "grass" anywhere in England and Wales.
(http://tinyurl.com/2cea59)
A 17-year-old forbidden to use his front door. (http://tinyurl.com/2c7xeh)
An 87-year-old man ordered not to shout, swear or make "sarcastic remarks to neighbours or their visitors".
(http://tinyurl.com/2esz2k)
Your views on ASBOs?
I don't know anyone from Ireland who's gotten one yet; I'm not even sure about the statistics on how many have been issued so far, but I'm going to continue searching.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-04-07 16:05 [#02070269]
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They are being abused by the authorities and are another clear example of Britain becoming a police state along with the talking CCTV cameras and more speed cameras than cars.
The Mirror reported a case in 2005 where a 15 year old was hauled into court for breaking his conditions where upon they found his ASBO actually stated that he was ordered not to appear in public without alcohol and that he was also duty bound to "act in a threatening manner likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to others."
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tood dude
on 2007-04-07 19:49 [#02070390]
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i hate irish
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-04-08 17:11 [#02070581]
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Abso
Lutely!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-08 17:14 [#02070582]
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what an odd thing to do... what's the reasoning behind this?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-08 17:23 [#02070583]
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how utterly weird.
according to wikipedia
"A MORI opinion poll published on 9 June 2005 found that 82% of the British public were in favour of ASBOs, however only 39% believed they were effective in their current form."
# Two teenage boys from east Manchester forbidden to wear one golf glove.
# A 13-year-old forbidden to use the word "grass". # A 17-year-old forbidden to use his front door.
I don't know what they did to get these asbos, and I can't be bothered finding out right now, as I need sleep, but if their behaviour has indeed been severely antisocial, wouldn't counselling or some other form of "treatment" be better than just banning stuff? To get to the root of the problem, do you tell the person to suppress his urges, or do you try to actually get at the urges themselves, make them actually go away?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-08 18:18 [#02070587]
Points: 12878 Status: Addict | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02070583
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i guess it's because the politicians feel pressured to come up with something that'll deliver (or at least appear to deliver) hard-hitting punishment, and the general public is of the opinion that such punishment is a legitimate cure for social ills
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2007-04-08 19:13 [#02070593]
Points: 2586 Status: Regular | Followup to redrum: #02070267
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They're all absolutely ridiculous except the one with the 87 year old man. I bet he's a right cunt. :D
"FUCK YOU AND YOUR FUCKING FAT FRIENDS YOU UGLY BITCH." I bet he's one of those dicks that sit peering out of their windows and shouting abuse.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-08 19:28 [#02070597]
Points: 12878 Status: Addict | Followup to SValx: #02070593
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to be honest i feel that way about the 17 year old, forbidden to use his door, although i totally disagree with the method of punishment. i imagine he's a far greater annoyance.
i derive amusement from old people like that. i'd be the first over to him with a huge smile on my face to spark up a conversation. they're always fantastic for a bit of vitriolic banter, those old fellas.
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