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i just watched this movie and im confused on a lot of things -- what was the significance of the centipedes? is tom frost just an alter ego of bill lee's within his delusional state @ interzone? the scene with kiki and the parrots --- what the fuck was that all about? the significance of the cockroaches being his employers, and the bug powder, just what the fuck? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? in fact i have no idea about anything in that movie. its really too deep!! |
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did you enjoy it? |
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I think in order to understand it you have to understand certain parts of william burroughs life at the time. |
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...or just make of it what you will, and not cheat by looking at the back of your maths textbook for the answers. |
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why did you watch the movie instead of reading the book? |
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because it's directed by David Cronenberg and watching a movie is less time consuming? anyway, i read that it's cronenburger's interpretation and that it only slightly resembles the book. correct me if i'm wrong. |
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Never seen the movie, but I assure you the book is just as scatterbrained and fucked up, if not more. Burroughs writes walls of text that couldn't possibly be translated into film. A two page string of unconnected adjectives and nouns, for instance, isn't all that uncommon. When I read his books, I read them for the rawness of it all. He's really vulgar sometimes, and his descriptions are priceless. I remember him describing someone's mouth as a hairy, dripping asshole that sucked up everything it could possibly sniff out. You're better off just not trying to analyze it, and try to look at it for its purely aesthetic appeal. Course the movie might have done a shit job at capturing all that, so who knows. |
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The Talking Asshole? I've got an mp3 of Frank Zappa reading that. |
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The movie is pretty good, but it frankly has little or nothing to do with the book. The book itself has almost no plot, which makes any adaptation quite a courageous task. It's like (well almost like) making a film about Joyce's Finnegans Wake - no can do. For what it's worth, and for what it achieves, Cronenberg's vision is quite intriguing. Just don't mistake it for Burroughs' own sweetly decadent vision. The book is a must read, and quite an experience. |
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its the kind of movie (and novel) you get to make up your own mind about. |
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dude, you totally got to be on drugs, mescaline, man, to read the book, and, like, see what it's about, man! Like you got to go, like, where the author went, like, and the only, like, portal into it, into that place, is mescaline man! |
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ahahhahahahha yeah i enjoyed the film loads i just couldn't really come to closure on what those centipedes were all about and what the connection was between the morphing typewriters, the aliens, and his wife Joan. when i woke up this morning i watched the movie again and i realize now that there's a connection but it's totally this thick black hole of data my mind cant conceptualize. has anyone here seen the 'tim and eric show'? |
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what is with that google thing ?? i dont really hate rush but i dont really love them either |
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It's cronenberg. He puts video tapes in people. Enjoy it! |
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its basically a fly pod combo of naked lunch novel, burroughs life and cronenberg themes. read burroughs letters to ginsberg and you'll follow it more. |
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if you're not up for reading it at least listen to the audio book, as read by burroughs himself. i'm sure you'll be able to find a torrent for it. |
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jesus christ you're annoying |
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this bothers me a lot |
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i know |
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It was the google add at the bottom. Cygnus-XI.com |
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this movie really blew my mind when i was a kid, especially the very end. i still need to find time to read the book. |
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didja ever see mamorou oshii's avalon? the ending of naked lunch haunted me the same way avalon's ending did... it made sense that this next place was the appropriate place to go to, but, it also did not make any sense. "welcome to avalon"... but it's like... 'why'? |
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Read the book! It's great fun. Cities of the Red Night is also terrific, in a different way. |
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i've seen that and i have to agree with you. |
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how does his stuff compare to the other beats? i've only read kerouac (on the road, dharma bums) and ginsberg (howl) so far. |
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a very good movie. the scene with kiki and the parrots --- what the fuck was that all about? - i think that was about a fuck. got no better answer. I have a mugwump on my desktop image at work. |
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i watched videodrome tonight, another great one, man. its right on. art-wise im always late to things but this stuff seems very appropriate now, it seems on-time |
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death to videodrome... long live the new flesh!!! |
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videodrome is great. Naked lunch was just so hyped up to me before i saw that that when i eventually checked it out i was very underwhelmed. especially by the music which was one of the worst cronenberg/howard shore score's ever. |
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tim and eric awesome show great job - 'cats' <--- extremely good |
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the book isnt fun and you cant just reccommend it to anyone because you claim to have 'read and understood' it. (same people who claim to read the likes of james joyce and not seeing what all the fuss is all about (regarding the extreme difficulty pretty much everyone encounters when trying to read it). I'm convinced this book will have no meaning to at least 99% of the people who read it. It's cold, harsh, offending, bizarre, violent, and generally fucked up stuff that comes across as totally random. Having said that, i am happy that there are people out there who manage to get stuff like this published, and even made into a penguin classic. I didn't hate the book, i just found it impossible to read as a book. If you can read it as words following up words, you might succeed. Great movie by the way. |
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The name is Clem Snide--I am a Private Ass Hole" |
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yeah, for fucks sake, have you seen the episode "chunky"? its fucking genius |
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