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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-04-04 02:04 [#02069144]
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albeit a little late, i saw this movie just 10 minutes ago, and i'm astonished. this is a true monument of film. it is quite rare that i have seen such an accurate portrayal of the human condition and the state of our world today.
[POSSIBLE SPOILER] The cut from the wife getting stitches to the japanese girl was one of the most intense piece of cinema i have ever experienced.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-04-04 02:10 [#02069145]
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it's been a while since i was so moved by a film. Absolutely excellent. Can't wait to get it on DVD, which of course hasn't come out here yet.
Stunning music too.
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Mooken
from MCR (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-04 04:34 [#02069208]
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Great film. One of those that i didn't want to end.
[MINOR CRITICISM] Not wishing to urinate on the parade, but the whole (fake) English people not giving a shit and making the coach leave scene was a bit bollocks.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-04 04:47 [#02069209]
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i liked it but not as much as you guys. i thought the cate blanchett and brad pitt bit was unrealistic in places (SPOILER: the coach driving off?? bollocks) it is extremely well directed though.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-04 04:48 [#02069210]
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hahaha
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Silly Willy
on 2007-04-04 15:10 [#02069358]
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Are you fucking joking? This has got to be one of the most contrived and self congratulatory movies ever made. What a load of fucking bollocks. I wasted a couple of hours of my life watching this. I recommend nobody see this film. It's all the wanky philosophy of The Matrix without anything fun to see.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-04-04 15:22 [#02069368]
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"t is quite rare that i have seen such an accurate portrayal
of the human condition and the state of our world today. "
this part makes it pretty obvious you're an american. im not patronizing here or something, it's just an observation..
i liked the movie, thought it's sort of much in your face (not sure about the expression)..everything is sort of exaggerated..i mean stories like this can be told in a much more subtle way..it's sort of a movie for the blind even..still very nicely filmed though, good music, good scenes..
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OK
on 2007-04-05 00:34 [#02069514]
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most people here (mexico) hated it
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-05 00:59 [#02069517]
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"hedphukkerr from the ill mush hookup (United States) "
And this, this is telling me his is very, very American
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-04-06 10:18 [#02069921]
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im merely curious as to what "american" here entails.
i think you may either be misreading me, or reading differently what i saw in the movie, because i thought one of its strongest points was that in the end, everyone who was from the third world got fucked and anyone with money, despite a terrible journey was fine in the end. sure, its unpleasant, but thats the way it happens nowadays, and its humbling and frightening to see it on film.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-06 10:55 [#02069939]
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Don't worry about it, American is the new Nigger
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-04-06 11:14 [#02069954]
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ive actually most certainly noticed that kind of stigma lately (obviously when you live in america the only anti-americanism youre exposed to is white kids from the suburbs with anarchy patches sewed onto their messenger bags).
im just curious, what would you call typically "american" traits?
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OK
on 2007-04-06 13:47 [#02070006]
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dumb ignorant obesse arrogant
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-06 17:30 [#02070050]
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I dunno... the movie did not give me enough to really care about Cate Blanchett's character. I found that whole storyline weak.
I enjoyed the Houskeeper's section a lot, although I can't say I really feel bad for her. She deserved to get deported.
And Cheiko, well her part did actually touch me. The world can be a pretty fucked up place if you have a disability like that. It will be the only thing I really take from this movie.
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sofa king
from the sofa on 2007-04-06 22:48 [#02070079]
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i hate to say things that allready been sayed andithink this movie was very good all actors in it was top notch and the story the same
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2007-04-07 00:29 [#02070086]
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i am European. and it is a great film, one of the best of last year's, if not the best.
plot criticisms are not valid, since this isn't a film which is driven by its plot, but rather by its idea and theme. it isn't named babel for nothing, guys. so complaints about the bus driving off, or other silly plot points are all irrelevant.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-07 01:07 [#02070091]
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Plot criticisms are always valid. Even for broad, continent sweeping theme movies.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-04-07 01:32 [#02070096]
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go and see inland empire. i heard the plot was geniusly absent.
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2007-04-07 03:07 [#02070118]
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plot criticisms are valid, but only in films where they are relevant. it is obvious that inarritu plots are intentionally contrived to bring forward some greater theme. it isn't a coincidence that all his three films center around a single theme
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-04-07 04:15 [#02070126]
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I did see Inland Empire (with Lynch in attendance in a screening near san francisco)... The plot was far from non-existant.. it just doubled back on itself, twisted and branched into tangents of dream and halluciantion. It was intense.
Now as far as Babel... like I said... I really did not care about Cate Blanchett's character in that movie... whether she lived or died. We had one scene of her being disagreeable and annoying and the next we saw her she gets shot in the neck. I know you might say we were supposed to care more about Brad Pitt's character in that situation, but I still didn't. There was nothing to hold on to. It was a good movie, but as far as construction was concerned, if you want me to be empathetic with characters you need to give me a reason first.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2007-04-07 04:19 [#02070128]
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i thought it was ok, but again i found it hard to empathise with some characters.. i thought the pace and score were pretty good though.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 10:55 [#02150943]
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does anyone have this on a dvd or a good quality rip?
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-05 11:27 [#02150971]
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I've put off watching this until I get over the fact that I have low expectations about it being another hollywood tearjerker of a feigned drama - this, again, is my opinion of a film I haven't seen. Another film I hate and haven't seen is Gangs of New York.
Critics are people, too, they say. But they say a lot of things.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 11:30 [#02150975]
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two different things though. i too haven't seen gangs of new york and i don't care to either. but babel is a bit different to your usual hollywood tearjerker.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2007-12-05 11:39 [#02150980]
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another friendly rip request
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 11:40 [#02150981]
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i just need a screen shot : )
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2007-12-05 11:49 [#02150984]
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mee too ;) hehe
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 11:50 [#02150985]
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if you don't need high quality one i can make it for you hehe
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2007-12-05 11:54 [#02150989]
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yes please!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 11:55 [#02150991]
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what scene?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2007-12-05 11:58 [#02150994]
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never saw it, i cant tell
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-05 12:01 [#02150995]
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yea that's what I'm afraid of, that I'll like it :)
we started to watch it one time but then it didn't have any subtitles and none of us spoke 'sand nigga' so we gave up
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 12:07 [#02150998]
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hah! in that case i'll post the one i'd like to have in better quality: )
here
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 12:08 [#02151001]
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have you seen other inarritu's movies?
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-05 12:31 [#02151009]
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yea, loved both 21 grams (especially naomi watts) and amores perros. Certainly a great director. Which makes my predisposition all the more baffling, i guess... Never mind, I'm going to see it and probably be moved by it. It's just that I hated Crash and don't want, again, to be led by the hand to a point blank catharsis.
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2007-12-05 12:42 [#02151012]
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it's pretty good, yeah
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-05 12:43 [#02151013]
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right. i know what you mean, and you can certanly get the movie in that way, but there's really more to it...when you see it you will know. every story per se is awesome, but the whole thing together may give that wrong impression..i think inarritu isn't trying to deal with the issue in a cliche sort of way eventhough one can definitelly perceive it like that..
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-05 13:16 [#02151021]
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heh, i watched this just the other night so this is a nice coincidence.
the movie was real good, though the fact all the people went through such terrible all ordeals, coincidentally at the same & all happened to have some connection to each other was a bit farfetched.
though, it was good movie and, just watching their situations was real painful.
i was reading the imdb message board and some guy was getting angry saying something like "ASIF A FATHER WOULD LET HIS SON HOLD A GUN LIKE THAT. ITS SIMPLY NOT BELIEVABLE."
ahh lol?
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2007-12-05 13:48 [#02151030]
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I havent watched this but it sounds like smug do gooding wankery of the highestlowest order
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-12-05 13:54 [#02151031]
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well then you should watch it and report back
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2007-12-05 14:26 [#02151036]
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According to Genesis Chapter 11, the Tower of Babel was a planned tower in the city of Babel. Babel was a city that united humanity, all speaking a single language and migrating from the East, planned and began to build. They desired that it include a tower with "its top in the heavens" . In Genesis 10, the city of Babel was the beginning of the empire of Nimrod.
As the story continues, God, seeing the city with its tower, reflects that while the people remain unified, nothing would be restrained from all that they thought to do. So He confused their language and scattered them throughout the earth .
What an asshole!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-06 05:25 [#02151267]
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still looking for someone with a better copy : )
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-12-06 15:30 [#02151410]
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Cate Blanchett has to have one of the worst American accents in all of film, she makes me cringe. Shes nearly as bad as Brad Pitt is at speaking, well just about any accent.
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PS
on 2007-12-06 16:20 [#02151418]
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Crash < Babel < Magnolia I wouldn't watch any of these again, not even for pretty faces.
That Japanese girl was most beautiful. :0)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2007-12-06 20:22 [#02151498]
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i didnt like it, thanks anyways
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