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kinda disturbing if you think about it |
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COMPONENT SETTINGS FOR MARCH 2007 One birth every.................................. 8 seconds One death every.................................. 12 seconds One international migrant (net) every............ 27 seconds Net gain of one person every..................... 12 seconds |
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US is poo. |
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i dont know. we have some good elec. artist.... like umm..... prefuse, and matmos... yeah thats about all i got. we should have more given this clock apparatus. |
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you have many great artists!! and prefuse isn't one of them : ) |
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pfft, that clock has nothing to do with how many good elec. artists we have. we don't have any good elec. artists because the majority of people here are ignorant. and that's just in general. i really have no sympathy left for the rest of my fellow citizens. it's like everyone is in denial. so when our infrastructure collapses and this nation takes a step 200 years backwards, my smile will be 10 miles wide. |
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oh my bad. i thought he was... the only ones that come to mind are small elec. based artists. icebreaker int., edit etc... but i find prefuse and lets say something like autechre for example to be at another level. do you know of any others? i doubt matmos is the only good thing thats come out the u.s. |
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how about the whole chicago/detroit techno/house/electro thing? but i wasn't thinking that much of electronica as other fields. for example all contemporary classic music composers that hail from nyc. it was and still is a huge influence on electronic music (at least the interesting part). |
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but if you need electronica names..keith fullerton whitman is brilliant! |
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i like house-techno-electro. dont get me wrong, but i was thinking more experimental. but now that you mention it the u.s. does have alot of good 'movie composers'. i should look some up one of these days. i enjoy harry gregsons work (metal gear, man on fire [although he's from england]), but i never got around to it. |
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it can't get more experimental to what cage, glass, riley, palestine, reich, conrad, and all others were/are doing. imo. |
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the only one i've heard of is glass. you are an encyclopedia of knowledge i have to say. i'm quite ignorant when it comes to contemporary composers. i mean i know very little and it was just cause i've heard their work in movies. for example, armageddon... theres that one piece 'Evacuation'. that is probably one of my fav. pieces of all time. all those other names i'd have to start looking up. i guess i spend too much of my time looking into ind. work, but they all usually tend to be european. the last artist that really evoked alot of feelings for me was vector lovers, and i'm not ashamed to say i like his style. but seeing as i've been wanting to get into classical music, this would be a good start. |
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when i read your posts i hear derek zoolanders voice. |
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it just s happens im interested in nyc contemporary composers, im no encyclopedia hehe. i forgot to mention lamonte young there, and all of them are americans..if you like glass maybe you should check out steve reich (im surprised you don't know him..lots of electronica artists sampled or reworked his pieces). |
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coming from a russian that hurts :) |
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thanks for the recommendation tolstoyed. i'm not trying to come off as a corny spaz but you seriously are like the matt pinfield of this mess genre. thanks again |
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also, i would be interested why you consider prefuse to be more experimental to say jeff mills? |
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this style is reminiscent of Kiln. have you ever listen to Lux Pdf? it kinda has this harmony that just keeps rising. yes i'd say this is more experimental in the sense that it doesn't really burrow a definitive style as prefuse (ie. hip hop, blues). |
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lux rpf* sorry. i'm sure he was influenced alot by these musicians. |
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no idea hat that is.. also, i meant the experimental issue comparing prefuse and jeff mills..for what you said above; "i like house-techno-electro. dont get me wrong, but i was thinking more experimental".. |
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the thing is i dont consider house-electro as experimental, as prefuse, because i suppose it's less danceable (abstract), there isn't as many 'prefuse-like' artists as well, and to me i find anything where you need to put in more work than your predecessors as being more experimental. when you listen to prefuse, it takes effort on the listeners part to follow along, it paints a picture in your mind. house/electro can do the same but imho less efficient in doin so. |
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detroit techno? |
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i see..not sure i agree though. maybe if it wasn't for techno/house producers, prefuse would never exist..experimental to me means doing something that hasn't been done before..covering new ground. i don't hear that in prefuses music personally..but maybe that has something to do with me not liking that sort of empty music haha |
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in a way it is empty. i do see your point. i mean he is a collagist basically, and this becomes even more apparent when you get remixes from James Ruskin that are groundbreaking. i mean but theres so many artists its hard to say who is taking the bull by its horns, many have alot to contribute. i believe prefuse has done his part. (although i totally disagree with his politics :) |
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thanks for taking time to explain : ) |
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This has prolly been posted here before, however I'm posting it again as it demonstrates great insight into the early experimentation of jeff mills that tolstoyed is refering too. Infact anyone intrested in detroit should watch it, its great. I :heart: ABC |
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Dockstader and the Forbidden planet soundtrack were better than anything the bbc radiophonic workshop did. in my humble opinion, and they were American as apple pie. I think America doesn't nurture the arts as much as European countries. Not in the white tower sense, either. Also electronic music has always been looked down upon in the usa for some strange reason. |
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it's no strange reason, it's because americans are inherently ignorant. |
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excuse me; most americans... |
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otto von schirach back to the original topic, yeah don't reproduce; you'll just make food for the nanobots. Countdown until self replicating nanobots: 13 years, 4 months, 12 hours, 12 minutes |
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Whatever beings dwell in the future will use us for fuel like we used the ancient forests. And since time is nothing more than actions in space, and since significant actions are increasing exponentially, even if we are only 100 years behind them we'll be as ancient to them as the dead trees are to us. I can't wait until they burn me as fuel, that's when your soul finally gets released. |
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