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here's a pop song that i recorded last night/this morning. [4MB] hope you enjoy it, cheers. |
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Ha! That's pretty fucking hot! I got a shivery thrill of being back at the 6th Form art room, of fighting over the cassette player with tapes of My Bloody Valentine et al. It makes me think favorably of them and the first Seam album, which is neither here nor there, only that I rate both highly and this is up there with them. I love the guitar sound, which sounds like a stupid thing to say, but I do. That's a really a great song, that's the best pop guitar CLASSIC INDIE ... hell it's just a great song, the best I've heard for a long time. I've got the Indie Shivers which I've not felt for some time, I'm glad there is still the possibility. |
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the 'indie shivers'! haha, excellent :) thank you very much for saying so, i'm glad you liked it. i think there may be a few incarnations in the near future, as all this talk of mbv has given me some ideas. |
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Quality stuff Mr Jack. I have never been into this type of music but even to my untrained ears I can tell it is better than 99% of the shit released now. You should get a record contract thingy with Warp, they would like this. |
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To me this doesn't sound like anything different from anything else I've heard of this kind of pop lately. That being said, that kind of music seems to be pretty popular, and every new clone released is hailed as the new king by the reviewers, so you may be able to do well, and if you like doing it, if you're having fun, keep it up, but I would just like to urge you to make something at least slightly more inventive/new. |
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Have you heard his other stuff? He is fucking awesome mate. Take a listen to xylophobe. |
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xylophobe was better. It kind of reminds me of some old skool hip hop for some reason. I never liked it when a kick or snare or whatever is constantly distorted, though.. I think it sounds better if you only use the effect in certain places, but that may be just me. The other songs, bar the similar-ish generic pop song, were also quite nice. |
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not my cup of tea, but quite good for what it is. |
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Yes, I agree. Well produced and pleasent to the ears, but this kind of sound has never really hit my musical sweet spots. But as evidenced from this thread, the people who do like this indie/pop hybrid seem to like it, so you have obviously nailed it for your target audience! Well done sir. |
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thank you for listening and for your comments, and thanks for the plug lee. drunken, making something 'new' is all very well but it doesn't half get tedious. personally, i start worrying more about being original than actually making decent music that i enjoy. also i'm not sure i entirely understand what you mean by "that kind of music" and all of its "clones" - do you mean "generic pop"? anyway, i've been working a second version of this track, with more noise, distorted guitars, feedback, etc... plus a slightly better mix. it sounds more complete now. (...currently uploading... slowly...) |
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Because I am so elderly and infirm I used to be into "indie" music when it was still possible to respond to the question "What kind of music do you like?" and the answer "Urrr, Indie, really" would 9 times out of 10 bring the response "Indian?" From the Indie Year Zero of 86, the zenith of all achievment in 1988 to the golden haze of the Happy 90s... but INDIE DIED IN 1997 How? Oasis release "Be Here Now" Stereophonics release their debut Travis release their debut album Limp Bizkit release their debut album Verve release "Urban Hymns" and split up for the second time, Richard Ashcroft going on to embark on the most boring solo career in pop history. Mogwai, realising that Slint had the dignity to record just two albums and leave it at that, decide to make a career out of copying them badly, and inspiring a million other bands to pretend they'd heard of Slint and make similar loud/quiet "experimental" rock. Aphex releases the indie/dance crossover "Come to Daddy", attracts the most annoying global fanbase apart from Autechre's , and spends the rest of his life paying for it. These facts combined with The Collective History of Pop being wiped by the beheomoth that is "Ok Computer" meant that Indie Music, unless it sounded like a weak version of Ok Computer, or some comedy sports rap, just withered and died. All the good bands that were around before this Massive Shit all failed to bother to come back, no more My Bloody Valentine, no Pixies, no Jesus & Mary Chain, to name some of the more famous. I think only Echo & The Bunnymen bothered after splitting up so many times they'd forgotten if they were currently together or not. The "indie" music I hear today is rubbish. It takes the worst aspects of Post-Punk, Indie, or comedy Goth, and makes it so horrible only kids dizzy with their own egos and hormones can bear it. Even painful art rock twinned with electronica sucks arse. But surely the pulse lives on, somewhere... I think it lives on in Leeds. |
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whether you want it or not, here's the second version... [5MB] |
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I actually agree 100% with just doing what you like, etc, and not worrying about what you're making (I never do myself either), but it's just a more elaborate way of stating that I didn't really like the track, and also giving reasons as to why I didn't; I commented on the track. Yeah, generic pop music. |
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ah, ok. fair enough, now it makes sense. although, you do seem to excel in confusing people :) |
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i wish i could write stuff like that |
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New mix is nicer still, more rounded, makes the song sound.. even better. It was driving me mad thinking of who it was that it reminds me of..f. At first I thought Sonic Youth and then the more poppy period of Dinosaur Jnr. There is something distinctly transatlantic sounding about this track, if it wasn't for the vocal giving away which side of the pond it's from. Very good, all in all. |
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well, when i started it originally - about a year ago - i was just trying to do a sonic youth rip off, but when you strip it down to the basic rhythm guitar it's virtually two chords in dropped D... Bm9 (no 3rd) E|-9 B|-9 G|-11 D|-11 A|-9 D|-9 G9 (no 3rd) E|-5 B|-5 G|-7 D|-7 A|-5 D|-5 ...and when you play those two chords alternately, you're half way to playing the foo fighters' Everlong. i imagine this explanation didn't help ease your mind. |
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Hahah, yeah.. I think I sometimes take too much for granted in conversation, and I've noticed that the most common confusion is that people seem to mistake advice or an utterance of a personal preference as some sort of a statement about a universal truth or something unless I explicitly state that "this is only my preference" or, rather, in this case, or any case of critique/advice, "this is what I would do." Of course, there are times when I'm talking more generally about something that is supposed to be the truth about something, and even though this is still a personal utterance, it is to be taken differently from opinions on a work of music or the best future course of action or stuff like that, but I usually assume the context makes things clear enough for everyone. Oh well, that's a digression. Carry on. |
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didn't give me any shiverz! too bad |
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for what it is, it's quite good, really. the vocals really do sound flat, though; i know it's the style of the music, but you sound slightly too bored singing, i think :) improve this, and i think you're onto a winner. |
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^ they sound flat in parts, by the way, not throughout the whole thing. |
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word up to your other tracks on myspace, too - very impressed. |
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yeah, i need to redo some of the vocals. some of the backing vocals sound hilarious when soloed, as i lost my voice. thank you for listening. |
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