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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 03:23 [#02061194]
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It's inevitable, guaranteed, and you can't stop it. Death will be looming over your head for your entire conscious life, and finally it will take you and you will end up like everyone else does.
You'll have no knowledge of existing, you'll simply cease to be. It will happen, and your mind will stop. You will be forgotten within a hundred years, and barely remembered after ten. There is no rebirth, there is no afterlife. You will just stop. Have a nice day.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 03:30 [#02061195]
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yes, i know.
but try telling that to jimmy
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-12 03:30 [#02061196]
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TMT?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-03-12 03:40 [#02061204]
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best thread ever
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-12 03:41 [#02061205]
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*pours tabasco on obara*
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-03-12 03:45 [#02061208]
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*dies of heart attack at the age of 30, on a sunny morning*
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cx
from Norway on 2007-03-12 03:55 [#02061214]
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death is the ultimate trip
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-12 04:20 [#02061221]
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no shit
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2007-03-12 12:41 [#02061391]
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there is rebirth
and there is afterlife
and when you die the wizard of knurrkat will decide if you did well or not. and if you squished lots of insects in your life, maybe hell lets you grow up in north korea...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-12 12:48 [#02061397]
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which by then will be heaven on earth.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-03-12 12:50 [#02061399]
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our individual lives are drops of rain in a storm. hitting the ground is inevitable, but it is not the end, nor was the storm the beginning.
looking deeper, you will see that every raindrop is the ocean.
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OK
on 2007-03-12 12:53 [#02061402]
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i will not
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thatne
from United States on 2007-03-12 12:59 [#02061410]
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it creeps me a little out to know that somewhere i could have a conscious ness twin like someone whose been through identical things as me and if i die will carry on my sorry legacy.
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staz
on 2007-03-12 13:04 [#02061412]
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oh wow what a revelation!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-03-12 13:37 [#02061425]
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yes. treasure each fleeting moment.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-12 13:40 [#02061426]
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And when it happens, i won't have to read threads like this ever again. It will be liberating.
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2007-03-12 13:53 [#02061430]
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i'm calling all you guys on this one....
..... i predict that within our lifetime it will be possible to download your life experience and memories into a computer that will be shared as the common human experience.
And even scarier, people will do this willingly regardless of the privacy policy of the other ppl who share the memories from those events.
Everyone wants to be immortal and believe their life will matter to someone in the future and that their legacy will live beyond their lifetime.
AND FOR THE TRUMP....
.. people will implant these memories in robots to help them relate with the human experience. Like nexus replicants... ultimately they will be humanities greatest gift and downfall.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-12 14:01 [#02061435]
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Consider then that after you've downloaded your memory into the computer, you stand up and look at the computer and you realise "Hey! What the fuck?! That isn't me; I'm not living 'over there' as well!" and then it'll all be for nothing anyway.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-03-12 15:03 [#02061465]
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Death is good though, you'd go crackers if you had to live forever. It's only bad if you die young when you still had potential, or if you have a really torturous painful death.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 15:31 [#02061481]
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im ready for death,bring that bitch on.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-03-12 15:38 [#02061491]
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Why?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-03-12 15:46 [#02061494]
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Why would you go crackers if you had to live forever? Because it would get repeatative. There are middle-aged people who are tired of life, imagine if you were a thousand years old.
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thatne
from United States on 2007-03-12 15:46 [#02061496]
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swears i disagree i think age develops irony and allusion and fun such as that.
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2007-03-12 15:55 [#02061505]
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there's no time and there's no death.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-03-12 15:59 [#02061509]
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Well I think you'd develop an entirely different perspective if you knew you weren't going to die. Being fearless and godlike sounds good to me, but all you can think of is oh, maybe I'd get bored.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-03-12 16:02 [#02061510]
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Wouldn't you evetually get bored of being fearless and godlike?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-03-12 16:16 [#02061518]
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No. I think, at least for me, being bored stems from a fear of wasting time, trying to find the most efficient way to spend my time here and now, failing and desperately waiting for something better. I'd have no reason to care about wasting time if I was immortal. There'll always be something to do. Or if there isn't, I suppose I'll just stop moving and I won't care.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-12 16:20 [#02061521]
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I agree with you 100%
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-12 16:23 [#02061524]
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I intend to play the reaper. AND WIN.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-03-12 16:27 [#02061527]
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There's a good short sci-fi story by Martin Amis, "The Janitor of Mars" about a race of immortal aliens who go insane because they've created a perfect society and have done everything. So they decide to have these huge, pointless wars just for the sake of it.
Imagine if they cured death tomorrow and everybody was immortal. Nothing would ever get done. I certainly wouldn't turn up for work. What's gonna happen? I'll starve? I won't be able to save up for a mortgage?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-03-12 16:30 [#02061528]
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-12 16:32 [#02061529]
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Of course, in a perfect society, you wouldn't need to work anyway. You could just sit at home all day and masturbate all day. Masturbate until your balls go blue. Then you could sleep, produce some more sperm and then repeat the process.
Nothing beats a wanktropian society.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-03-12 16:37 [#02061530]
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piece of SHIT
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2007-03-12 20:35 [#02061585]
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I still don't understand, Morpheus.
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gyroscope
on 2007-03-12 20:45 [#02061586]
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Nooo, but I don't wanna.
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2007-03-12 21:03 [#02061593]
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I still stand by my computer theory.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-13 04:44 [#02061639]
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hahaha, i love the last sentence. Genius
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-13 05:00 [#02061644]
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immortality would be a bit shit. immunity from all disease would be quite cool, so you can live indefinitely and when you get bored you can still just stub yourself out.
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uzim
on 2007-03-13 05:33 [#02061651]
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that's an interesting point of view... it makes sense, though i'm not sure it would work for a human being.
and even if you leave boredom out of this, there are always several issues to immortality - i mean, "just" immortality, not another completely different life that wouldn't end. would you keep aging? would your wounds heal, your limbs grow back if they get cut off? what if the earth gets destroyed by a gigantic explosion and everything turns to ashes? etc.
also, for the "godlike" character... i'm wondering, could you do anything you wanted, just provided you had infinite time?
personally i would only like "immortality" in another, different life, not as a human being on the earth. and only if i could end it if i wanted (granted, it wouldn't really be "immortality" then but whatever). i don't know, the idea of an immortal human just doesn't seem to "fit" right to me, i'd be scared.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-13 07:35 [#02061686]
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I think you've got it turned the other way around.
That death awaits is of course something most people fear at times, becoming nothing, but just as that experience of trying to conceive your own death will make an impact on your being, so does the mere fact that "this is it," this is what your life amounts to in the end, death. Now, how, and if, you face this is entirely up to you, but I'd say it's better to face it with a sort of courage (to persist until death) instead of just letting go or dreaming yourself into immortality. I'd say that if I was immortal, having all the time on my hands, I wouldn't necessarily be bored, but I think life would lose its "shine," I'd get.. is jaded the word? "Now" would be only a vanishingly small part of forever while, to me, "now," as mortal, is a comparatively large part of my life (until death).
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-13 07:39 [#02061692]
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i can't take you seriously, there's a smiling cartoon mole looking at me
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-13 07:40 [#02061693]
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Does it feel absurd?
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RussellDust
on 2007-03-13 07:43 [#02061695]
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we don't know. simple as that.
on a sidenote (DM): i do feel the absurd at times, it makes me physically sick and weak.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-13 07:45 [#02061697]
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That's good, that's what it should do. I've experienced pure being when I'm drunk.
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RussellDust
on 2007-03-13 07:50 [#02061700]
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yes i used to usually just experience it when ill or intoxicated. nowdays i get 'attacks' out of the blue and get very ill, my brain catches a glimpse and panics. i then have a few minutes to position myself (at least geographically) and empty my thoughts or it all goes pear-shaped.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-13 07:59 [#02061701]
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Absurdity is usually very clear (in a way) to me when
I have migraines.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-03-13 08:03 [#02061702]
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if i didn't have to eat i think i'd just walk and try to see everything.
dunno if i'd get bored of that or not, but i'd like to try.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-13 09:11 [#02061748]
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if i didn't eat, i'd hate life. Life right now for me is all about art and love and food and drink and beauty. I hope soon it's about children too.
Put a nice ambient or acoustic track on, look outside at the sky, and you remember why living is fucking great.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-13 09:11 [#02061749]
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but you're still going to die and be forgotten.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-03-13 09:16 [#02061754]
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yeah, i like eating, but i wish i wasn't burdened by having to eat.
cause, then pretty much all i'd need would be a tent and a sleeping bag. which i could maybe pay for a couple of years worth of tent & sleeping bag by mowing someone's yard a couple of times.
as it stands now, i also need a constant supply of foodies to stick in my face or i'll die. which means i also need money. which means i also need a job... which is lame.
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