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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-07 09:43 [#02059365]
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state your opinions
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-07 09:46 [#02059367]
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He's adopted, so theres really no reason why they can't be together. It's a ok in my book.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-07 09:50 [#02059369]
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But why are they discussing disability in the children in the article? He comes from a totally different gene pool, it's not an issue in their case.
If it was 2 biological siblings, i would feel completely different about it.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-07 09:50 [#02059370]
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same here.
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2007-03-07 09:51 [#02059371]
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he was adopted by another family... the girl is his biological sister... but they never grew up together. DNA wise they're family.
Socially on the other hand... they're not related.
Seems alittle tricky... but I guess modern science could bless their future off spring where nature would curse them.
I guess if it works... it works.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-07 09:52 [#02059373]
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Ah, ok. I misunderstood that part. Then it's far more tricky.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-03-07 10:17 [#02059384]
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I have no problem with it at all and I'm not sure I understand why they'd take the children away from them.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-07 10:18 [#02059385]
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me too. then it's a bit weirder.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-07 10:19 [#02059386]
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How odd. They even fell in love after having heard that they were siblings.. it's not like it happened before they knew... I don't really know what to think other than that they may be the future parents of Wolverine.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-07 10:25 [#02059387]
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Yeah, that part about taking the children I don't get either.. it could be that they fear their children should be affected by their parents' attitude or maybe that other kids would pick on them or something, but that doesn't really set it apart from gay parents. It could be an indication of their mental state, though.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-07 10:31 [#02059389]
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-07 13:52 [#02059464]
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-03-09 04:53 [#02060154]
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Well, the human mind is designed to find the pharamones of your related humans unattractive. Its a deviation of one nature or another. Regardless, any babies that they make are going to have a higher risk of birth defects, and that likelihood is going to carry further down the genetic line than just that first child. Its kind of a cruel thing to do since they don't have a choice.
My opinion on the matter is it would not be wrong if they were addopted into eachothers family. However, because they are biological relatives, it is wrong. For various different reasons it is wrong.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-09 05:07 [#02060158]
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that is some fucked up shit right there! i always got a vibe from europeans that they're a buncha inbreds.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-03-09 05:08 [#02060159]
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No, thats the us. The fact that its in the news shows its strange.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-03-09 05:11 [#02060162]
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Now the chap has been sterilised, I don't see what the problem is. I also don't see what taking the children away at this stage would achieve either?
Historically, incest has been illegal because of the almost 50% chance that the offspring would have a disability. Now that contraception has come on in leaps and bounds, I'm suprised that they've not reviewed the laws concerning it. I certainly don't think the taxpayer should be expected to pick up the tab to support their inevitably disabled offspring, or indeed that of any couple who choose to have children who are likely to be born with aids, etc. At the same time, it's inhumane to refuse to help the kids once they're born- it's not their fault.
It's a tricky one, but I think I'd like to see it illegal to conceive a child with close relative, but they should relax the laws on having sex with them a bit.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-09 05:35 [#02060171]
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"Well, the human mind is designed to find the pharamones of
your related humans unattractive."
Are you sure about that, and do you mean brain or mind? Also, it's pheromones.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-09 08:40 [#02060209]
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You actually made me think about this, Ezkerraldean... Congs.
I came to the conclusion, that they shouldnt be aloved to have children, in the same way people with downs arent allowed. The risk is too high of getting a deformed baby, and even if the child turns out normal, think about when it begins going to school... They will never have a normal life. I do think that they should be allowed to have sexual relations tho, he should just have been neutered from the beginning, and no-one would have noticed/cared i think.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-03-09 08:48 [#02060212]
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Are people with downs really forbidden to have children? How about people with bad asthma? Where do you draw the line and how can it be coherent?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 08:50 [#02060214]
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no sir,ive watched ricki lake. you,your family and your neighbours have all fucked each other.
keep it real,keep it within the family.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-09 08:54 [#02060217]
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Well, my brother used to work with people with downs syndrome, and they where forced into birth control. They actually have an insaly big sexual drive, that they act out in their childish way. (Danish law, so i don't know about the rest of the world)
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 08:56 [#02060218]
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EVOL at his sisterwife wedding.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-03-09 09:03 [#02060220]
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Hanal, try to be more sympathetic; what if you found out Masiumi Max was your long lost sister?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 09:05 [#02060222]
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id fuck her.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-03-09 09:09 [#02060226]
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To be fair though, I suppose Masiumi is 'a bit' more attractive than the redneck bride.
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datautel
from hardcore (Russia) on 2007-03-09 09:46 [#02060248]
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ghagha :) lol hi hanal
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-09 09:48 [#02060250]
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They just draw the line somewhere and call everything beyond it a serious disability.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 09:49 [#02060251]
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hi andrey. this is my pic btw. do you think im fit,would you lick ice cream off my chest.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 09:50 [#02060252]
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dunno what to think of this. i dont see there being anything wrong with them being together - its victimless - but having kids should be a no-no. too much risk of dodgy diseases and weird shit.
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datautel
from hardcore (Russia) on 2007-03-09 10:01 [#02060256]
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hey mista very cool and fresh
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nacmat
on 2007-03-09 10:20 [#02060263]
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its ok with me
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-03-09 11:07 [#02060270]
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FASCISTS
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-03-09 13:11 [#02060342]
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"Are you sure about that, and do you mean brain or mind? Also, it's pheromones. "
Fair play. Brain would be more accurate. I don't spell check because its not worth my time, and I am dyslexic, so I do spell fairly poorly when I am online.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 13:45 [#02060359]
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thats probably on every page of xlt image search
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 13:50 [#02060364]
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well cheers for that.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-09 15:12 [#02060390]
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no way dude you totally super imposed me, although my sister does look pretty hot in that pic!
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 15:13 [#02060391]
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im sorry,but yes id fuck her.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 15:17 [#02060392]
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those germans do good incest.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-09 15:27 [#02060398]
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i'm sorry, but the rots got dibs. you'll have to wait your turn in line with the rest of the trailer park.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-09 15:28 [#02060400]
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will just throw one off to the pic then.
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mimi
on 2007-03-09 16:44 [#02060423]
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disabled people can lead quality lives
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-09 16:47 [#02060424]
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True. Ofcourse they can. But still... It might seem a bit rough, but deep down in my heart, i feel it's more humane to avoid this. But you have a point. I actually think people with downs are in pure bliss.. I mean... Look at them. Not a care in the world. If there is one, they forget it in 5 minutes.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-09 16:49 [#02060425]
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Brain would be more accurate to express what you meant, yes, but one question still remains: are you sure that the human brain is made so that you automatically reject your siblings based on their pheromones?
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mimi
on 2007-03-09 16:50 [#02060426]
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It might seem a bit rough, but deep down in my heart, i feel it's more humane to
avoid this.
well, it is rough...maybe if you lived in a more inclusive society it wouldn't be more humane to just prevent these pitiful disabled people from ever having to be born. umm, not to be dramatic or anything.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-03-09 16:52 [#02060430]
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At least they won't rape their children.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-09 16:55 [#02060432]
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Yeah.. They'll make love to them instead.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-09 16:58 [#02060434]
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In all respect, i'd say that my society is probably one of the most inclusive and humane in the world (at least compared to yours)
Not to be all dramatic about it... (as well)
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mimi
on 2007-03-09 17:49 [#02060463]
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right, i would totally agree with you there...i'm just saying when you hear people saying things like that (which i have heard a million times in the usa), it shows that a society isn't inclusive enough
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-03-09 17:53 [#02060466]
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Cool. I knew i would get this kind of response to posting this oppinion, and i see where you're coming from. My basic filosofy of how society should work, is just that people should suffer as little as possible, and i believe restricting these kinds of things will make people suffer less.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-03-09 18:09 [#02060476]
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I don't mind lesbian twin sisters
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