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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 04:57 [#02054273]
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actually not really the amen break itself (i've gotten
kinda sick of it's extensive use) but just a good, flowing
drill break.

i studied the amen well and made a few examples

beat_1
beat_2
beat_4

so the "flow" is there but somehow it seems completely off
power. i mean the bass drum is killing and there isn't this
"drill" when you chop it up and rearange it.

i came to the conclusion that this "drill" is probably
something to do with the hi-hats/crash that should have
quite a long decay and spread over more slices.

drumloop
drumloop_2
drumloop_3

but that still doesn't sound satisfying.

i tried hundreds of patches of different compressors even
chained a few on the master but still no luck.

lsiten to this example of pendulum:

pendulum

it seems like he has some flanger on it and it's somehow
weird filtered. seems like a highpass filter but still the
bassdrum and the snare remain crunhchy - when i acieve such
a sound with filters on my loops the sound completely
lush...

any hints ?


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-02-23 06:13 [#02054305]
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are these samples supposed to be under 1 second long?


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-02-23 06:14 [#02054306]
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nevermind, just a problem with quicktime.


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-23 06:27 [#02054308]
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you don't have to use any filtering or compressing or
whatever the fuck on your amen breaks. Just find the right
amen break sample. When you chop it up, try experimenting
with pasting together the bassdrum and snare and the hihat's
that come after the snare. It gives it that flow i think
you're looking for. If you listen closely to any track with
an amen break in it, it's really just about the combination
of these Bassdrums, Snaredrums and the matching hihats. I
have a track on my myspace/fah called "Murda", it might make
abit clear to you what i mean with the hihat thing.


 

offline xf from Australia on 2007-02-23 06:28 [#02054309]
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you're citing pendulum as a /good/ example to try and seek
help from an audience i'm pretty sure try to avoid pendulum
style production?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 06:34 [#02054311]
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jesus i just had a good example from him.

i would want to achieve a loop for fast drills like for
example in mangle 11 circuit bent


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 06:34 [#02054312]
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find the right amen sampel ?

have you read the initial post at all ?


 

offline Chin Bwoy Phat from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-23 06:36 [#02054314]
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tits to the amen break


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-23 06:46 [#02054320]
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yes, and i'm not kidding you


 

offline Chin Bwoy Phat from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-23 06:57 [#02054327]
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me neither


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 07:41 [#02054342]
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bla bla bla


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-23 10:25 [#02054412]
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Break each slice out, then apply a proper envelope to each
drum, then EQ each drum, and send each to its' own channel
on a mixer, compress the reconstructed beat, and resample
your own work.

Tighten up a 909 kit and layer it underneath.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-23 10:30 [#02054415]
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chhhk chhhhhhhhhk


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-23 16:14 [#02054528]
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Nice to see people bothering with making this stuff from the
ground up.


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2007-02-23 18:08 [#02054568]
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layer your drums.


 


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