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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 04:57 [#02054273]
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actually not really the amen break itself (i've gotten kinda sick of it's extensive use) but just a good, flowing drill break.
i studied the amen well and made a few examples
beat_1 beat_2 beat_4
so the "flow" is there but somehow it seems completely off power. i mean the bass drum is killing and there isn't this "drill" when you chop it up and rearange it.
i came to the conclusion that this "drill" is probably something to do with the hi-hats/crash that should have quite a long decay and spread over more slices.
drumloop drumloop_2 drumloop_3
but that still doesn't sound satisfying.
i tried hundreds of patches of different compressors even chained a few on the master but still no luck.
lsiten to this example of pendulum:
pendulum
it seems like he has some flanger on it and it's somehow weird filtered. seems like a highpass filter but still the bassdrum and the snare remain crunhchy - when i acieve such a sound with filters on my loops the sound completely lush...
any hints ?
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-02-23 06:13 [#02054305]
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are these samples supposed to be under 1 second long?
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-02-23 06:14 [#02054306]
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nevermind, just a problem with quicktime.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-23 06:27 [#02054308]
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you don't have to use any filtering or compressing or whatever the fuck on your amen breaks. Just find the right amen break sample. When you chop it up, try experimenting with pasting together the bassdrum and snare and the hihat's that come after the snare. It gives it that flow i think you're looking for. If you listen closely to any track with an amen break in it, it's really just about the combination of these Bassdrums, Snaredrums and the matching hihats. I have a track on my myspace/fah called "Murda", it might make abit clear to you what i mean with the hihat thing.
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xf
from Australia on 2007-02-23 06:28 [#02054309]
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you're citing pendulum as a /good/ example to try and seek help from an audience i'm pretty sure try to avoid pendulum style production?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 06:34 [#02054311]
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jesus i just had a good example from him.
i would want to achieve a loop for fast drills like for example in mangle 11 circuit bent
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 06:34 [#02054312]
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find the right amen sampel ?
have you read the initial post at all ?
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Chin Bwoy Phat
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-23 06:36 [#02054314]
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tits to the amen break
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-23 06:46 [#02054320]
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yes, and i'm not kidding you
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Chin Bwoy Phat
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-23 06:57 [#02054327]
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me neither
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-23 07:41 [#02054342]
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bla bla bla
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-02-23 10:25 [#02054412]
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Break each slice out, then apply a proper envelope to each drum, then EQ each drum, and send each to its' own channel on a mixer, compress the reconstructed beat, and resample your own work.
Tighten up a 909 kit and layer it underneath.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-02-23 10:30 [#02054415]
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chhhk chhhhhhhhhk
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-23 16:14 [#02054528]
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Nice to see people bothering with making this stuff from the ground up.
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2007-02-23 18:08 [#02054568]
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layer your drums.
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