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Why are some of the so stupid and not be able to understand the nature of religion? |
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Boring. |
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you're some of the so stupid |
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What do my daily problems, or the meaning in life have to do with science anyway? |
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the war on atheists have begun in amerika. it's becoming a bit too scary imho. i dunno, i consider myself one but not in a promoting type way. i dont get all freaked out about having "one nation under god" or anything like that. i dont want any of that removed, i can ignore it just fine. but there is some serious hate in this country regarding atheists. and im just coming to realization about it |
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we are nothing more than a complex chemical reaction, burning up and burning out, leaving nothing but dust. ours is to be scattered across the great deserts of a dead earth, till the fires of the sun reclaim us, its final dawn making all as one. and as the nova fades, our atoms collapsing, we slip past the event horizon, sand through the hourglass, forgotten into perpetual night. pray hard that your god might save you, if only a god could exist in a place such as this... |
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eh, i don't care if you believe in god, you're fucked at the end anyway. |
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Nothing more? |
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Why are some of the so stupid and not be able to understand the nature of religion? You can't really be serious can you? The reason they are Atheists IS because they understand the nature of religion. Religion is_____________ |
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I will pray long and hard for anyone who takes monoid seriously. |
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Atheism is another form of religion |
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That's like saying "Invisible" is a new form of color. |
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I know what im talking about, shut up..... |
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OK, now I'm sure you're joking. I get it, I get it. Well played. LOL, brillant! |
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whatever man |
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actually, it's not so bad.. given the inevitable consequences of gravity, all matter is eventually drawn into its nearest black hole. and like dust clouds forming planets, the holes pull together, creating unfathomable superclusters, doubling and redoubling until, finally, there is but one ultimate mass. unable to retain any form, the universe collapses, unto the point of infinity, where upon gravity ceases to exist. freed from its bonds, spacetime is loosed in a great, crashing wave, expanding to the farthest reaches of itself. and thus we begin again. |
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"a strong belief" - Yes, it takes a strong believe to believe what scientists say about quantum physics or the cosmolgical model of our universe |
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Sounds like some of the earliest world-views to me.... |
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Humanity is bullshit and I don't want it any other way. |
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Yeah, because Mathematics is so like, fake and stuff... |
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atheism is a lack of belief. i deal in proof, and/or convincing evidence. not belief. |
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Actually, we're already part of 'one ultimate mass', there just happens to be alot of distance between the molecules currently. |
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I'm defining religion as a codified believe system. You appear to be defining it in some dumbfuck way. |
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Monoid will you be my friend |
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that's like saying - i believe in proven facts - therefore, you "believe" in something, (like another form of religion) ermm, i dont think so it's a bit rhetorical |
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I think it's impossible to prove anything nowadays |
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It's "cool" to be an "atheist". |
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how do you figure that? although i have come across some people who feel the need to "display" that they are one, or that they are somehow better blah blah. ive never really told anyone in real life and generally if asked i just say that's none or your business or that my views change based on events in my life. |
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Of Course its impossible to prove or disprove religion. |
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richard dawkins is our god |
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as per usual u r right. ppl mock what they dont understand. athiesm is as naiive as religion. why choose at all? |
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that's where im coming from it's not a choice i dont hardset myself in not believing anything im young and my views have changed over the years. i realize this and expect to see more changes in the coming... bah, this one is too hard to put into words. hate it when that happens, ttyl |
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if you're talking strong atheism, where you make a factual statement that no god exists, then yeah that's a logical fallacy. but, if you're saying that since there is absolutely no evidence that a god exists then it makes sense to assume that there isn't one, i suppose that's more understandable. |
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to quote the boondocks "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." i think its more reasonable to believe that if there is any kind of higher intelligence, it is far beyond our grasp, and we could never have a chance at understanding it, scientifically or not. i hope if such a being exists, that its way more complex than the petty, self-centered rendition most of the world's sacred texts have given it. |
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right, yeah i agree. i don't think that quote conflicts with what i said. i mean, we don't have any explicit evidence that unicorns don't exist yet most of us would find it to be perfectly acceptable to proceed with our lives as if they didn't. |
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..or is that what you believe? |
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has anyone mentioned the flying spaghetti monster yet? |
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I have the same problem with athiests that I do with most religious types: They wont admit the possibility that they're wrong; that they DON'T know the answers and that no one alive does. Stop pretending like you know everybody. Agnostic 4 lyfe |
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I doubt gods existence, for various reasons, but I wouldn't call my self an Atheist. Atheism, like organized religion, requires a certain amount of Faith, which I do not posses. I mean, it seems nearly as silly to say definitively that "god does not exist" as it does to say "god lives in the clouds above us". I'll readily admit that "I don't know if god does or does not exist". Which is why I am a spineless Agnostic. |
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but thats the point. agnosticism is far from spineless, on the contrary. you have to be brave and perhaps even misguided to have to deal with the prospect of dealiing with a large arena of a knowledge base you really think you deserve to know the answer to but probably never will. |
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no, its not. i am [currently] convinced god does not exist. i do not believe god does not exist. evidence convines me. but if i ever see evidence to the contrary, or have a religious experience or whatever, my situation might change. like science itself, my viewpoint is not static. |
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maybe that is an agnostic position. i don't know. but i call it atheism. or humanism sometimes. meh. |
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No, see I meant spineless literally. The doctors were forced to remove my spine after a horrendous childhood ping pong accident. |
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To summarize... Atheism, is the denial of belief of the existence of god. Agnosticism, is the acceptance of possibility in the belief of a god (or other higher power / existence / intelligence). There is no "belief" in atheism. There is only denial. (Although some may argue, denial implies ackowledgement, which implies existence). :) |
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The denial of belief of the existence of god sounds like a belief in and of itself. Not only is Agnosticism the acceptance of the possibility that there is a god or gods, but also the acceptance of the possibility that there is not one or any. |
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oh JESUS this thread could end up being huge. Monoid just except that some people don't want to believe in your fucking backward, contradictory, superstitious, irrelevent to a modern world religion ok? Its not a matter of intelligence its a matter of choice. Something religion does not embrace very well. B123 commin atcha :P Personally I don't care what any of you believe in. I'm here to share good ol xlt times with you. peace |
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wait a minute belief describes the leap of faith required to bridge the unknown. belief is distinct from knowledge. so it would require belief to argue with conviction either for or against the presence of a god, unless you really do know for sure. we can only really speak with conviction for what we have experienced, and what we know to be real. |
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