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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-18 01:38 [#02051764]
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Say I want to be able to play command and conquer, day of
the tentacle, original doom/heretic and all the old pc
games, plus have typical modern music software and stuff.
how is your setup if you play old games. Do you just use
"dosbox"? I don't even remember if command and conquer
(original) is supposed to be played on dos or win 95.

or is it better to have partitions. that sounds too
complicated for me to figure out.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-18 02:18 [#02051768]
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After reading on "the internet", it seems like I need
(windows 2000, or windows xp) with dos box... then also have
a partition for windows 95. That should take care of all
games.
Or use "virtual pc" instead of partitioning, if that works
good. I guess you can right click exe files and choose to
run in win 95 mode while in xp or something.

I wonder if I should get windows xp or windows 2000 though;
I'd suck at linux too much probably.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-02-18 04:37 [#02051788]
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How about "do something with your life".


 

offline datautel from hardcore (Russia) on 2007-02-18 04:43 [#02051790]
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same shit
want to play x-com 3 and carmageddon 1 (no win95.exe)
dosbox actually makes those games running very slow in my
case
some people in net recommend me to install 2nd system
(win95) on pc - btw this is the best and fast way to run old
stuff imho
also it needs to be vdmsound stuff installed to run old shit
usually


 

offline Sano on 2007-02-18 07:57 [#02051818]
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What OS are you running?

I used to dual boot win2000 and win98, even in 98 some games
didn't run because of the modern hardware but most ran ok.

There's also a few utilities that you can run to load
those old games in your modern OS.

For the point and click adventure games there is ScummVM
just search it, it runs games like Day of the Tentacle,
Monkey Island,.... perfectly.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-02-18 09:22 [#02051834]
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I just use Dosbox with a GUI. If your computer is relatively
fast, you won't have a problem running whatever. Having a
separate PC with Windows 95 sounds like fun, but I don't
have the physical space for yet another PC.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-02-18 09:23 [#02051835]
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I use Dosbox as well. Can't find anything not to reccomend
about it. You type it, like the old Dos, you know, but that
just adds to the charm.

Have fun!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-18 09:31 [#02051838]
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i put windows 98 (first edition) on a puter at home with
512mb RAM and a 3ghz P4. it runs absolutely everything.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-18 17:19 [#02051916]
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Should I just get windows 98 and say sucks to windows
2000/xp all together? (I currently use win 2000 on my
laptop).

I would just experiment and see what os/ or combination
works best, but I did that once before and ended up losing
all the drivers (new pcs usually come with a drivers disc?),
so I'd prefer to get a computer with an os freshly loaded on
it to start with at least.

Maybe I should just get xp since it is the most popular
currently and probably has the most internet help/ utilities
that run old games/ etc.. even though 2000 has better
reviews.

I need to buy a new computer that can burn cds and
preferably has an lcd screen instead of a heavy tv-ish
monitor.

Ophecks and Sano's experiences regarding newer systems
running old games seem to contradict.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-02-18 17:25 [#02051917]
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there is an emulater called ScummVM that allows you to play
all lucas arts games (day of the tentacle etc) on modern
systems! it works


 

offline Sano on 2007-02-18 17:50 [#02051924]
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Most games ran really fast, Sega Rally, Cool Spot, Wipeout
2097, some didn't even ran at all like Pinball Illusions,
dual boot is too much trouble if you ask me, there's a lot
of info on the forums of http://www.the-underdogs.info/,
same way most games can also run on modern OS's like 2k or
XP they usually have instructions on the underdogs site.

My OS is also win2000, XP has a win 95 compatible option it
may be usefull to run these old games.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-02-18 17:54 [#02051925]
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Well you'll never get 100% compat, but for the most part,
it'll be fine. Of course occasionally you might have to make
some extra effort to get some games to run. System Shock was
a pain to get running.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-18 18:00 [#02051926]
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pkunzip.

dos/4gw.

thems were the days.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-18 18:08 [#02051930]
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I also want a quite computer... one I just looked at has 5
fans...
I was looking at less popular "shuttle" computers earlier,
really compact. Someone said they're quiet.


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-02-18 22:36 [#02051966]
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MS-DOS Version 3.23

C:\> cd games
C:\GAMES> cd calgames
C:\GAMES\CALGAMES\> start

You've got 167K RAM more than you need, Dude.
That's gnarly!


Loading..._


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2007-02-18 23:57 [#02051978]
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I'd use DOSBox for anything prior to 1997.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-02-19 04:22 [#02052013]
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ScummVM will play:

Maniac Mansion
Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Passport to Adventure
The Secret of Monkey Island
Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Day of the Tentacle
Sam & Max Hit the Road
Full Throttle
The Dig
The Curse of Monkey Island

These old school LucasArts games remain unsurpassed by any
new adventure games in the last 10 years. (Ok The Longest
Journey was non-lucas arts and pretty good I will admit..
think that came out in 2000)

Strategy and Shooters are *tons* better nowadays- the old
school originals hardly even worth playing- but these early
90s adventure games will remain king for a long time
because The Adventure Game is a currently a dead medium.

Also good are the the old Might and Magic RPGs, all the way
up to 8.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-02-19 05:02 [#02052023]
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Change the speed of Dosbox with CTRL + F11
and CTRL + F12


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-02-19 09:26 [#02052112]
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I endorse this post with aplomb.

I did read a review for the new Sam and Max game in Computer
Games magazine a couple of minutes ago when I was taking a
crap, so at least someone is still trying.


 


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