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i wonder if perhaps, secretly, we argue about things to prove them to ourselves, rather than to others. you can present new viewpoints and concepts one after another, but in the end, it's always the other person who chooses whether what you say is valid, and whether they want to believe it, no matter how true it is to you, and no matter how much you believe it yourself. reality itself is completely up to the interpretation of the observer, and the interpretation is reality, for them, as much as your interpretations are your reality. reality is self-referential; there is no final, absolute truth. if you believe you have discovered a new reality, you have only discovered the same reality: yours. |
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It's definately subjective as no two people are exactly alike. Although i am wondering what effect cloning human beings will have. If it ever happens of course. |
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ehm, aren't you supposed to be working on xlt v5.0? |
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Secretly? Like you aren't aware of it yourself? I don't think it has anything to do with any secret wish to re-confirm your beliefs, but discussion most certainly can have that effect; even though it wasn't originally intended to strengthen your beliefs, "winning" the argument probably has that effect. Reality, as you perceive it is, indeed, up to you, but not completely; there's intersubjectivity and there are certain features to the things you perceive that makes it impossible for you to perceive it as something else unless you're mentally ill; a sponge isn't a hammer. |
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Virtual Reality |
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welcome to the matrix! |
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I think each individual's brain-computed model of reality isn't a seperate reality ("the state of being true/actual"), merely a seperate interpretation of it stored on a different evolved brain (though all human brains are genetically very similar, gathering information with the same senses so most interpretations are similar) Everything probably is one exact 'correct' logical specific way (a single 'reality'). Non earth life forms either do or don't exist. It is definately one or the other and that information is encoded in reality right now as a definate yes or no (meaning far far away on some planet there are aliens, or there are no aliens anywhere). We as humans with our limited brain models simply don't have access to this information, like light that is that far away that we can see. In fact, truth only has relevance to a brain/computer trying to understand reality. A brain can make incorrect calculations. But to reality itself, everything is some exact way, so everything is 'true' as far as its concerned. It doesn't have to 'compute' the validity of anything because it is everything, which would make truth meaningless. |
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wtf?! |
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I would have said 'reality' is absolute by definition, your interaction with it is another animal |
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Funny avy as i'm reading the "Seductor's Diary" these days! |
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actually you are mixing two diferent concepts: truth and reality. the first, as you said, is up to the subjectivity, but reality is up to objectivity. read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality |
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reality is the lowest common denominator of the set of perceptions. |
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I only believe in good real reality, not bad fake reality. The unbelievers must be spongehammered until they repent! |
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excellent album, recommending |
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i practiced transfiguration turning a cig arette into a quarter-dollar and it work ed but just momently in my minds eye. im not convinced that the cigarette be came a quarter only it was a nice trick. |
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