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So im looking for a USB drum pad and it's between the trigger finger, korg padcontrol, or the Akai mpd 24. Just seeing who has used any of these and which of these have the best features. |
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Not exactly what you're looking for, but if you're looking for software control, I just picked up an Axiom.. it has 8 pads (8knobs, 8 sliders as well). Works well for tapping out drum patterns. |
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well im looking to trigger midi samples and use it as a finger drum pad-ish thing so its deff what im looking for i just dunno which brand or model since they all have different features. |
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Well, even though I'm an M-audio whore, I have to admit the Trigger Finger is pretty chincey. If the MPD24 is anything like the MPC pad, it's probably a good quality piece that you can beat the hell out of. ..but the added slide pad on the Korg could really come in handy, especially if you plan on using it live. |
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yeah thats what i was thinking, but hopefully its nothing like the unresponsive XY axis pad on my novation keybaord :\, i think the korg will end up being my choice the only downside is apparently it doesn't have the sensitivity that the trigger finger or the akai have but who knows... |
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i would go to a store and check every model ouy by myself. the biggest problem is that every brand uses different material for their pads so every model is different to play. harder pads are meant to be better because of better control. i know that one of the brands like akai and m-audio use soft and the other one hard pads but i don't remember which one uses which |
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I wouldn't buy a pad like this without velocity sensitivity, unless it was only going to be used for triggering loops. If you're looking to use it like an AKAI set up with single hits (a bit like a live drum kit), I'd definately want it to pick up the differences between the hits. |
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Hi, I currently own a Korg PadKontrol, and I can guarantee that it does take velocity into account, it just doesn't have aftertouch. That shouldn't be too big of a problem when you are just tapping drums. The velocity settings can be set using different velocity curves, and the pads have a good veel and are very responsive. Compared to the other pad controllers (I've checked them all out) this one is by far the best. The addition of the x/y pad is also a great feature. Flams and rolls I don't use that often, but you can control note repeat with it by setting the BPM to match your projects BPM for easy beat-matched retriggering (which is something you could achieve with a VST like battery as well, but still a nice feature). You can also set the pads to send out a fixed velocity very useful for triggering sound samples other than drums or melodies. Like I said at the beginning of this post, it's a great tool! I'm very happy with it. The major drawback is that it cannot be clock-synched from your DAW, making the note-repeat functionality it bit harder to use. Also a good idea is to check youtube. There are several videos around showing the potential of the controller. Hope this helps! |
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your in dallas right? go to G.C. on central and they'll let you try them all out. |
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but dont get the akai MPD it sucks |
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i checked out the vid's on you tube and the korg is the flashiest of the bunch with those wicked light up pads but im looking for usefulness not flashiness. it seems most people i see play live use the trigger finger and its been a stable product for some time, the only draw back is ive messed around with one before and it does feel a tad on the chinsey side. |
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I agree, the padkontrol is a bit flashy, but it still works. And quite well, I might add. The pads are better in terms of response compared to the ones on the trigger finger. I've had a long close look at both of them, and even owned a trigger finger for a few days, but took it back to the shop anyway. Got the korg instead, and I am still very pleased with it. |
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Unless you plan on micro-managing every midi sequence you ever create, you should really check the vel.curves on all of them, and make sure theyre responsive. |
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One consideration to add would be additional controls such as potentiometers. Good to have them if you want to tweak some parameters. If you get a pad with pots on it, you eliminate a possible future purchase of another controller to serve that purpose. |
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That's why I was recommending the Axiom. |
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the axiom has 8 pads, i already have a compact midi keyboard with my novation le, the big thing is what butros said that like with the korg i could get away with using some of the features built in and not have to mess around with those in my DAW, the only thing is i think someone mentioned earlier that the korg cannot time sync with programs such as live while the trigger finger can? |
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Explain what you mean by time sync? I don't think any of them have any sort of midi clock or midi time code support. The axiom has transport controls but as I understand those are just one shot messages and no timing is done inside the controller itself. |
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Ok so basically what im looking for is something to use as a finger drum pad to trigger drum sounds, and to use it to cue up samples, which is basically what all of them are meant to do. As far as a time sync I dont know if theirs an option in any of them say if i trigger a sample that's at a faster or slower BPM than in my program will it match that bpm, or is this even possible through the pad alone. |
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That is something you would have to address by editing your samples or using your sampler's pitch/timestretch controls. If you haven't checked out ableton live, its very good for matching tempos of loops to your track's tempo. |
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fuck is there really no way to sync the flams and rolls to a master clock sync at all with the korg? that totally squashes my salivation over it. right now im having a lot of fun with the electribes arpeggiator ribbon controller. Im looking for something that can make beats on the fly similar to that but with a lot more control and variation. |
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yeah i thought for sure at least one of them did that, the trigger finger seems to be the most popular choice but i think im gonna end up going with the korg. |
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The Korg controller cannot be time-synched no, but if you are using Ableton live, or a similar VST like Battery, the time-synching is taken care of internally. The plugins CAN timesynch, and you just set up the x/y pad for the korg to control the repeat rate (1/4 1/16 1/32 and so on). Works like a charm. |
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Oh and time-synch has nothing to do with BPM matching the samples, you can use plugins that might be able to do that. The time-synch only applies when you want to trigger exactly on a certain beat, say the first beat of the next bar. When properly time synched, your sample will sound exactly on the first beat, even if you hit the pad too early. If you are too late, it will sound on the next beat. It will never be played somewhere in the middle (unless that's what you want ofcourse). The padkontrol cannot do this, it can match the bpm of the project, but you need to have good timing in order to make it play along properly. Also, if you press and hold a pad, you can set it to retrigger the same sample every fourth or eight, which will then also be synched to the BPM of your DAW project. The same applies here, you need to time this well yourself. Using proper plugins, like I mentioned in the last post, solves this problem anyway, so I don't think it is a very big problem that the padkontrol doesn't synch to midi clock. |
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Ummm. I am a bit lost here. Isn't that something you should be doing in your sampler, not in the controller? Midi controllers generally don't carry any kind of sync information. If you want something that does that, look into the bitstream 3x. That doesn't have pads though. Its a great controller, but certain parts of the construction are suspect (sturdy metal with unreliable plastic switches amids solid knobs and questionable sliders). |
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