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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-02-10 16:36 [#02048409]
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ive not felt this optimistic about politics in my life. for the united states presidential election in 2008 we have a senator Barack Obama (wikipedia link) and Hillary Clinton (wikipedia link)
a black man... and a woman :) both with awesome ideas, namely in the areas of health care, withdrawing from iraq, stem cell research and more, prolonging human existance, foreign policy reform, and more
i just watched barack's announcement and he's fuckn clean too. young, wise, and articulate
bush's last day is coming. the evil, conservative christian right-wing will lose their hold of america! what a day it is to rejoice
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-02-10 16:37 [#02048410]
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just what the fuck has happened to my subject line?
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thatne
from United States on 2007-02-10 16:39 [#02048411]
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bush did it.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 16:42 [#02048412]
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Barack Obama (wikipedia link) and Hillary Clinton (wikipedia link)
a black man... and a woman :)
Big black dicks and old white chicks
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-02-10 16:44 [#02048413]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to cygnus: #02048409
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I read somewhere the other day that beer contains female hormones. They did a test where 100 men drank six pints of beer and in less than half an hour, they were all talking rubbish and couldn't drive.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-02-10 16:44 [#02048414]
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i like hillary clintons ass
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 16:45 [#02048415]
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GO politically incorrect thread GO
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-02-10 16:50 [#02048416]
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A blackman, a lesbian and two gay guys go to a sauna, they all had a thoroughly nice time.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-02-10 17:01 [#02048420]
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lol
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-02-10 17:01 [#02048421]
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i really really really hope obama wins the primaries, as i think he has a far greater chance of winning than hilary does. i think (read: hope) this country is sick of dynasties by now.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 17:03 [#02048423]
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But if they elect Osama then the terrorists have won!
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-02-10 17:27 [#02048434]
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Obama went to a madrassa!! oh noes!1
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-02-10 17:28 [#02048435]
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Barack Obama said on CNN that he'd cut troops in Iraq in half, as and when he'd be elected. A morale-boosting magic show is just what they need.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-02-10 17:43 [#02048442]
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******************* jeb bush for president! *******************
Fox have "accidentally" been calling Obama, Osama and reeling off headlines like "Obama announces new terrorist stratergies"
Cunce
Go Obama! but you won't win cause your black and too young.
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mimi
on 2007-02-10 17:48 [#02048445]
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Don't forget we also have a mormon and a disabled man running for the other team
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OK
on 2007-02-10 18:00 [#02048454]
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Obama has no chance because you KNOW that the republicans will use of the obama/osama play, and since most americans are that stupid they will fall for that. Hillary has more of a shot, but you KNOW the republicans will use the fact that she's a woman against her like: she's a woman and US is a country in the middle of war. be ready for another 4 years of republican rule.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 18:03 [#02048455]
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And it will work. The poor bastard's middle name is Hussein, fer chrissake. I don't think the foxtards have even pulled out that bit of ammo yet.
Too bad because I think he's more principled than Hillary.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 18:07 [#02048456]
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Watch what happens when anyone criticizes the right wing guy's Mormonism (it's a pretty kooky religion with magic underwear and magic handshakes). All of a sudden religion will be off the table as a fair question. After 7 years of hatin' on Muslims. And at the same time they'll be using Islam against Obama.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-02-10 18:14 [#02048463]
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Who do you think will win fleet?
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mimi
on 2007-02-10 18:16 [#02048466]
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and newt gingrich has a gay sister!
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-02-10 18:17 [#02048467]
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Giuliani
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mimi
on 2007-02-10 18:17 [#02048468]
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Ralph Nader
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-02-10 18:19 [#02048469]
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He's a smart guy, but too many people will blame him for stealing votes from the Dems...
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-10 18:33 [#02048475]
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I read somewhere about that guy that Mormons, as kooky as their beliefs in buried golden plates and doing each others washing up is, that they don't mix religion and politics, so that might go in his favour as people tire of Bush shoehorning God into his plans for turning the world into a nuclear powered carpark.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 18:42 [#02048485]
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Depends on whether or not there's a major terror attach on the US, what Bush does or doesn't do to Iran, what the price of oil is, and whether or not Gore enters the race.
If things remain more or less stable and Barack Obama gets elected in spite of the right wing propaganda, it will completely restore my faith in the US people. If things go badly and Americans close ranks and vote conservative... eugh.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 18:43 [#02048488]
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Oh yeah, Mormons aren't bad folks, as weird as some of their beliefs may be. I'm just saying if there's a serious chance of a Mormon being elected president, the US is going to get a crash course in Mormon theology from the political noise machine(s).
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uviol
from United States on 2007-02-10 18:55 [#02048497]
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These kinds of threads bother me. I am not a republican, nor am I disagreeing that most people on this board sympathize with your viewpoint. However, making a post so unapologetically left-wing and assuming everyone agrees with you seems a bit presumptuous. The more we practice this mindlessly adversarial approach, the more we will impede progress of any kind. I like you Cygnus, don't get me wrong.. it's just an observation, so please don't take it as a personal attack.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 19:05 [#02048507]
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Are you implying that Republicans and right wingers would be opposed to black and / or female presidential candidates? There has been talk of Condoleezza making a run on the GOP ticket, you know...
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uviol
from United States on 2007-02-10 19:10 [#02048511]
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Nah, it was more this paragraph that I was referring to:
bush's last day is coming. the evil, conservative christian
right-wing will lose their hold of america! what a day it is
to rejoice
My post had nothing to do with the race/gender issue whatsoever
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-02-10 19:13 [#02048518]
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It all depends on the persons' perception of what 'conservative' is nowadays... Given how the current Republicans have been acting they've twisted the intent of the party... It's not too far a stretch to see them as "evil".
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-10 19:24 [#02048526]
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I, um, pretty much agree with him there. :D
People who might get offended by a different and strongly worded political opinion should BURN THEIR DEVIL-MODEMS.
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uviol
from United States on 2007-02-10 20:30 [#02048557]
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That would be a bitchin' band name
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-10 20:44 [#02048561]
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anyone but Bush will do!
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-02-10 22:10 [#02048572]
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uviol- i didnt assume anyoen would agree with me. and, although i dont consider myself to be on the 'left', i do consider myself to be anti-right. you know? its weird, i think i lean "up", or 'down", im not sure yet. its not left though.
jivv;barack said a complete withdrawl by march 2008 if i recall correctly, also do you expect me to believe a black man would go to a public sauna with a LESBIAN??
bush is a piece of shit. the administration is full of con artists. rumsfeld, cheney, franks, theyve exploited the military industrial complex for the gain of america long enough... if it were up to me id have them all hung, id have condoleeza rice's head shaved and then a stick of dynamite exploded up her cunt!!!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2007-02-10 22:13 [#02048573]
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My money's on Obama for 2008. We've already had a Clinton.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-02-10 22:15 [#02048574]
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If either Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama get in I think it'll be good. It'd be nice to get the view point from someone other then a white male.
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-02-10 22:51 [#02048576]
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Unfortunately that's probably what you'll get.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-02-10 23:11 [#02048578]
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Does anyone think America is ready to vote for a black man or a woman to be President? No fucking way.
Four more years of the Republicans..........
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-11 00:12 [#02048585]
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my god politics are flooded with woman.
angela merkel hilary clinton segolene royal (curious if she makes it)
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-02-11 00:44 [#02048592]
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Don't you dare call Barak articulate. Thats racist!
Id vote for Barak. I like him.
Fame and status is a big deal in the usa so I personally feel that Hillary will be elected. Mainly because of her hsuband.
Shame cause I would like to see Brak in there
There was a chain letter sent out via email exposing the fact that Barak went to a Muslim school as a child. Who sent out the letter? The Clintons!!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-11 00:51 [#02048593]
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that's what think tanks are for
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-02-11 01:57 [#02048600]
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exactly, it's perfect timing on hillary's part. on one side, the current world needs a softer more female touch. there's way too much aggression, thanks to bush's administration, and people need to learn to listen to eachother again.
on the other side you have the conservative islamic world. will they listen if 'we' send them hillary? or would they rather listen to someone like obama? i'd figure it'd be obama.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2007-02-11 05:46 [#02048645]
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I am supporting Obama. The terrorists will never attaCk us if we ARE the terrorists.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-11 06:18 [#02048648]
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You really think women will do things differently from men?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-02-11 06:31 [#02048653]
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women are better empaths
but seriously though, the difference is more symbolic. america needs a wind of change. and what's the opposite of a joe sixpack president who can't spell potato...right, an intellectual female like hillary. obama comes close too, of course.
and everybody with a mind will act differently
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-11 07:01 [#02048666]
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what does it matter?
we're all fucking doomed now. thanks guys.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-02-11 09:41 [#02048699]
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Their brains are physiologically different, so their behaviour will be different.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-11 09:48 [#02048705]
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Every person's brain is different from every other person's brain, but people still don't necessarily do things differently.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-02-11 09:50 [#02048707]
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Do you think Americans will vote for a woman or a black man?
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rad smiles
on 2007-02-11 09:56 [#02048709]
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it won't matter either way. everyone is so beholden to corporate interests.
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