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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 08:18 [#02041908]
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I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for dubstep from outside of the UK. I've heard a few track demos from people on the board that have been good, but I was wondering about stuff that has actually been released.
I'm not really feeling Argon's (American label's) stuff, other than the superb track, Bitter Love by Matty G.
Hell Science Dept, have some tracks which are okay, but their main man comes across as such a prick on messageboards that I cannot contemplate enjoying their music.
Any recommendations, ideally with links to audio samples?
PS Please don't misinterpret this thread as a "Isn't the UK scene so good, you can't step to us" one. I genuinely am interested in hearing more non-UK dubstep.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-31 08:30 [#02041917]
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You're really into this Dubstep thing right now, aren't you? Hit me with a couple of 'essential' albums for me to check it out.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 09:24 [#02041956]
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Yes, I am, these days it's the main sort of music I listen to and make.
There aren't really that many albums, let alone good ones. It's a bit like drum and bass- It's more about singles/EPs. Some acts have a few good tunes and then try to use them to shift fairly mediocre albums.
That said, some good albums are:
Burial - Burial Dubstep Allstars Vol. 3 (Best V/A compilation, IMO) Tectonic Plates
Some good individual tracks:
Kromestar - Surgery DJ Distance - Fallen Loefah - Voodoo
NB: Please, please, please. Listen to them on a machine with half decent speakers and a sub woofer or at least on good quality headphones that can produce low end reasonably accurately. Don't join the legions of people who've listened to a couple of tracks on laptop speakers and come to the conclusion that the genre is rubbish (because they have only been listening to half the tracks as haven't heard any of the very low pitched basslines).
Note also, that it's a very diverse sounding genre for one so young. Just because you don't like one or two tracks, don't assume you'll dislike them all.
Back to the original point of the thread, here's a link to a sample of Bitter Love by Matty G.
I of course forgot to mention earlier, Berliner Timeblind's "Ghostification" EP. Decent tracks, but nearer techno than dubstep in my book.
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:19 [#02042011]
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Just break out your old Scorn 12"s, and turn the bass up!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:26 [#02042013]
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I've read about this before (someone was saying it's the one artist that sounds like Burial), but from what I've heard I'm not that fussed/can't see a direct correlation to dubstep. Like Pole/Murcof/Basic Channel, I can see a bit of a connection, but it's not like it's the obvious originator to my ears.
Any recommendations of particularly good tracks/those that sound most like early dubstep.
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:38 [#02042022]
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I think it's from 1995-96 or so, but check out "Greetings From Birmingham", one particular track: "Still On", or possibly "Flap". Plus Logghi Badogghi (sp?) is damn good too.
Steady bass swell, minimal beat, with a swinging hat and big sharp snare, with some nice beat juggling for variation, and some light texture hiding in the background.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 10:59 [#02042040]
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Checking out Logghi Barogghi now and I'm enjoying it. Having difficulty finding samples of Greetings from Birmingham, but will try to check it out later. Thanks.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-01-31 11:14 [#02042060]
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yeah scorn is fucking underrated
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 11:15 [#02042062]
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Meho, a previous regular here, is in regular correspondence with one (former)half of Scorn. Scorn stem from grindcore legends Napalm Death dontchaknow.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-31 11:17 [#02042064]
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The chap behind Scorn was the drummer for them or something, wasn't he? How is Meho doing? Please pass my regards to him.
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-01-31 11:19 [#02042067]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Harris
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-31 11:48 [#02042086]
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I want to here Welsh dubstep with the sheep sounds and shit. That would be the phat shit right there yo.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 12:03 [#02042102]
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I rarely hear from him these days but I'm sure he's well.
Welsh dubstep? A few field recordings up at Big Pit would work.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-31 12:56 [#02042142]
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Boxcutter is meant to be good. He's from Northern Ireland though, so it doesn't quite qualify as non-UK..
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 13:29 [#02042164]
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Oh yes it DOES. Northern Ireland is still ours.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-31 13:30 [#02042167]
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Du-uh. Jonesy you moron. I didn't read that post properly. My sincere apologies Mr. McGuiness.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-01-31 17:52 [#02042328]
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Drop the Lime from NY plays around with many different styles. Dubstep is more frequent with him in his recent works.
Bad girls EP on Boomkat.
America for some reason hasnt been doing much else but toy with dubstep here and there.
I think the main problem is that NONE of the UK DJ's do shows in New York. If they did you'd see it spread like wildfire.
America is all about the Bass. you cant drive in your car without passing at least five people blasting the bass and making your world sound throbby.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-01 02:22 [#02042612]
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Yeah, I like Boxcutter (especially the track Tauhid), but knew he was NIrish. It's a bit like Vex'd, or Geiom- the more IDM end of the dubstep spectrum.
Babaouo, I didn't realise Drop the Lime was non-UK, but I had checked out the Bad Girls EP a while back and it wasn't really my thing.
I remember seeing a documentary on dubstep (and also a few posts online) saying there was a bi-monthly dubstep night in NY. Doesn't sound too good, but it's not like Subloaded is a "regular" night here, either. I agree with you that I think it could be a lot more popular there than it is, things like the Matty G's stuff sounds a bit like booty bass and I'm suprised there haven't been a lot of artists from that genre doing dubstep type tracks, the way lot of DnB & jungle producers have switched to it. I think it could result in a fair bit of (normal club) danceable music that'd be good fun.
Jonesy: Yes, I reckon some field recordings of the dow corning chemical plant and a bassline made from a foghorn from the docks would go down a treat.
Ecnad: I will try to make a Welshstep track for you in the next few days.
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esaruoho
from helsinki (Finland) on 2007-02-02 02:46 [#02043367]
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Roope K, producer of ceebrolistics, serkkupojat (and srkkpjt), who sometimes releases his own stuff, is somewhat related what with a dubstep night going on in helsinki, finland, called ALAS - and i believe he is at least influenced by dubstep/grime etc.
hope this helps
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 02:52 [#02043368]
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Very good stuff. Thanks for this, exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 07:30 [#02043507]
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Sweden gets in on the acts with L-Wiz and Ekstrak. Their Split EP is nothing outstanding, but still quite good.
In other news in my quest for more underrated dubstep tracks from places which are not within blighty, I discovered an artist I like a lot and even have most of his releases, Juju, is in fact American and not a Bristolian as I has somehow previously assumed (possibly due to the DJ Pinch Connection).
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thodob
from Bergen (Norway) on 2007-02-02 08:57 [#02043590]
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-02-02 09:05 [#02043599]
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there's gotta be some japanese out there doing the dubstep thing. after all they were nuts about pusher before everyone else!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 09:08 [#02043604]
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Ta for that. I'd heard his stuff before, but had forgotten his name.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-02 17:34 [#02043925]
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Taffstep.
I think this will be deleted as soon as one person DLs it, so first come, first served.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 18:41 [#02044545]
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Listening to Dubstep Allstars Vol 3 now -- only the second track but I'm enjoying it.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 19:11 [#02044563]
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Is all Dubstep this atmospheric and sinister? I love it!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 19:15 [#02044564]
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... Imagine my surprise when I turned it off to retire for the night, and some eerie ambient background music was playing.. I had put a DVD in my drive and the menu music was playing in the background. Don't I feel foolish? Although, it went very well!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-04 11:03 [#02044964]
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Most dubstep is nowhere near as atmospheric and sinister as Taffstep, but it can be quite good. :P
Check out Loefah's track "Voodoo" if you like that sort of menace.
Glad you like Dubstep Allstars vol 3. the first track (Kode 9 - 9 Samurai) is in my top 5 dubstep tracks.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-04 17:26 [#02045104]
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I take it this aren't full tracks, or is a dubstep cut usually less than two minutes long?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-05 02:01 [#02045162]
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No, tracks are usually 5 min+. Moreso than any of the other dubstep allstars compilations, vol. 3 chops between tracks v. quick.
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