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and its all about aphex twin and the likes all over again. hmfff. |
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lets talk about drugs again! my brain's being flooded with its own delicate mix of neurotransmitters. i'm the most unpleasant person to be around right now. think i'm in love. or something. WHOOOO |
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I'm on anti depressants that just make me fall asleep at any moment. It's great, I just woke up on the floor. Plus I'm not depressed. Bonus. |
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i just went for a walk for about an hour or so. quite good temperature outside, but it's really slippery. the snow betrays. |
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what is it like, not feeling depressed anymore when you take pills? are the nasty thoughts still there, and are you not caring about it (like morphine and pain, you know its there but it doesn't bother you) or are you 'just' happy and.. more optimistic? |
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I don't have the thoughts, I mean, I can still think of them but they don't cripple me like before. I just feel, kind of normal, like.. ok, get on and do things... stuff doesn't get me down like it might have done before. I needed something to help, I was in a hole before I couldn't dig myself out of, I only wish I'd sought advice earlier. Tssh! |
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i like the new dog_belch :))) |
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Ha, you know, I do too. |
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That's awesome news, dog_belch. Out of curiosity, are there drugs for malaise? I think I'm too apathetic to be depressed anymore... really been that way for a long time. Like, I'm not really having a good time, but I don't really care all that much. |
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wonderful, glad for you. are the side effects bothering you much? do you know if you'll be taking them indefinately, or up till a point where things are on track again? question question question? i'm interested, i've been feeling pretty shit myself too, and chemistry/pharmaceuticals are my future. don't know what it was. isolation, perpetual dread, zero optimism, moodswings. psychedelics and new agey yoga stuff were my way out. doing pretty okay now, dont know how long it will last. appreciate every second of happyness i get. |
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Well, I'm no expert, but the doctor explained to me there's dysthymic disorder where you're kind of slightly depressed for a long period of time and then that can (or not) woooooah slip into major depression, which is what happened to me the last couple of months. Or you might just be a bit bored and need a change. Or a goddamn slap. |
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what helped for me was setting goals for the future. finding out what you value in life, what you want to become, finding out how you see yourself and where needed changing that. (i always found myself rather unattractive. i find myself 'okay' now. haha.) knowledge through introspection. could i possibly sound more cheesy, one wonders. i suppose you could live your life off 'stabilizing' drugs against sadness, or perhaps mild stimulants against apathy. my ideal is to be able to live without drugs if i choose to. |
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:D maybe we should get Tony Robbins to do the next xlt radio broadcast? |
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oh yes, please |
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I don't know, it's so difficult isn't it, and I'm sure there are people even here a lot better qualified to discuss it. About 8 years ago I had panic attacks and anxiety and agoraphobia hit me out of the blue. I got over that without drugs but it did take about 5 or 6 years.... I think now it might have been better to have the drugs to get like a ... breathing space to sort your self out in, in a shorter space of time. Because at the end of the day I think you do have to think your way back to being able to get on normally. The only side effects I have are laughably extreme tiredness and slightly in danger of giving away too much information, Combo style anorgasmia. But hopefully if i can level out, cut out the booze (which I have done so far), realise being depressed / overtyl critical / a bastard helps no one, I can cut out the medication too. But I'd say, at this point, it really has helped at a time when I really couldn't se a way out. Oh what a confessional. |
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Life been getting me down too. And I can't really say "lately" because it has been lasting for years already. Not much of moodswings and stuff, more like.. I'm kind of ok at day, and then in the evening the shit hits the fan and I start thinking of how everything is totally shit, and I try to find a way out of it. Which brings even more mental pain, since there are no proper realistic ways out of some situations I'm in, so I have to deal with them. Example: compulsory army service for 2 and half years. If I want something decent and go to officer courses, I need to serve 3 and half years. So I ask myself, why? What am I even doing in this country anyway? It fucked up my education and my status, it completely destroyed my personality, and now it wants to have a chance to destroy my body too? Ah well, in worse case I'll just shoot myself while I'm there. //pointless depression rant that no one will probably read anyway. |
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And just a comment: I don't really want to sit on anti depressants due to my condition. I really really want to improve my outlook on life by improving the life itself. Which is kind of sad really, since my chances are too slim when I think about it. Going to sit on ritalin soon though. I have concentration problems too. |
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Could you leave Israel? It is a somewhat better option than suicide, no? |
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I'm thinking about it. Unfortunately, the only time I can leave it is after the army. My family is rather poor, and while I have the money to travel somewhere, I have no means in actually starting up a proper life there at the moment. No relatives anywhere other than Kazakhstan (where I was born) either, and I'm not planning on coming back there. And even if I move somewhere, what's next? How am I going to get a citizenship there? Besides, if I run from here before my army service, I can't come back either. So if I move somewhere and eventually get deported, they arrest me and put me into military prison here the moment I step into the airport. I'm not willing to take this chance, so I just keep hoping that things will somehow improve for me. At the moment I'm trying to at least not fail school. Which goes kind of edgy, but I -might- succeed in this task. Also, 100 posts. |
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iam totaly against anti depressants. did you know there where more deaths in mental health hospitals than in every american war up to 1972. |
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fuck off. you obviously haven't been depressed. |
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I think now it might have been better to have the drugs to get like a ... breathing space to sort your self out in, in a shorter space of time. Because at the end of the day I think you do have to think your way back to being able to get on normally. i'm sorry i'm overreacting.. but this sums it up just wonderful. they aren't definite cures i think, but using chemistry to feel 'normal' and get your act together again.. nothing wrong with that. |
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I'll be sure to take the opinion of someone who didn't realise SAW 85-92 was the same as Selected Ambient Works 85-92 over that of a qualified medical practitioner. |
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plus, he like changed like the entire musical taste of de hood he livz in, yo.. just by putting ICBYD in the cd player! |
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i'll get off the board now before i insult more people |
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Good call on the booze. I been sober for almost 3 years now, and I feel 1,000 times healthier; physically and mentally... I keep to myself about it usually, because I don't want to come off as "preachy", and figure most people will eventually come to the same conslusion when the time hits them right. |
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Well this, in my opinion, is it. If you're in a hole and everything looks bleak, it's hard to... get your act together. But if you feel ok, even if you know you're taking medication, but at least you're at a standpoint where you can see what's going on, then you're better equipped to .. do start to something, whatever that might be. I think if, like you, you're smart and open to ideas and experiences, you can kind of rationalise this kind of thing,. to an extent, and make it manageable. Some people aren't equipped really to deal with "crazy" things and maybe go under. I don't know, I shouldn't say much as I'm not a doctor by any means. It's a mad world. |
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It's a mad world. Pretty much sums it all up well. |
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apparently 50% of the student body at harvard university are on anti-depressants (according to my teacher who talks to trees) I should be taking anti-depressants; the only reason I don't kill myself is because a couple friends insist that I stay alive. Also my cats. With that whole shitting-blood fiasco a few months back I just kept hoping and dreaming it was deadly cancer, but it wasn't, it's crohn's disease, which is far worse. You stay alive but are in terrible pain all the time and the only treatment is an unhealthy diet, a shit-bag, and an injection that you have to get every week that takes 8 hours out of your day and is an immune suppressant. writing this made it much worse, oh my goodness |
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Bloody hell, scuppers. |
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...the music discussion thread... OK, that was a pretty crap post. The best to all of you. This struck a cord, btw: Because at the end of the day I think you do have to think your way back to being able to get on normally. I couldn't agree more. |
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Fuck. I have colitis so I can relate to the suck, but you definitely have it worse. Did your doctor gives you any options or what? My cousin's friend has it and she had it really bad, multiple hospital stays, the works. She had an osteotomy and is fairly well now. I know that solution isn't at all appealing, but you know... she seems OK to me, certainly not in pain all the time or anything. |
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Whoops, OSTOMY, I mean. I was close. |
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Well since it's technically a music thread, Cex - Julia Walsh is one pretty and sad tune, but has this "everything will be alright in the end" tone in it. I like it. |
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woa I was even closer than i thought when i said dog_belch was turning into monoid |
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depression = monoid. |
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i meet with my doctor this friday. I can't imagine he'll have me do anything major (like some of the treatments I mentioned, which are what my dad has to do) yet, since I've had only one flare up that seems to have subsided. |
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Remember kids... "Depression is merely anger; ...without enthusiasm." |
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depression is the inability to construct a future. |
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^^^hit home |
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i feel better now knowing the worst cunts on the board are only such cunts because their own lives are utter shite! i knew it all along but could only guess with my own speculations, this just confirms them! hahaha! bastards! :) oh and to keep on topic, the song "mad world" by 'tears for fears' comes to mind. |
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no, you see it's the cunts like yourself that make us so miserable |
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how to distinguish between being slightly depressed for a long period of time and just being unhappy? |
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Ask an expert. |
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And not the Internet. |
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An odd thing I personally experienced is that a sudden, tragic event can knock depression out of you, even if it replaces it with grief for a period. Before my mother had multiple strokes, I was constantly negative and depressed. Though I'm far from happy about what happened to her, the event was like a wake-up call, and the former grey cloud of depression has largely been lifted. Can anyone else relate to this? |
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Genuine LFIMWMTTDCOFMC* @ that. *laughing fit in my workplace, much to the distaste/curiosity of my colleagues. |
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depression seems to come from lack of ambition/purpose |
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yes, this is relevant to electronic music |
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Don't let your utter ignorance impede you from saying anything, no matter how rubbish. |
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