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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 05:32 [#02039381]
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While the PS3's performance has been hilariously dire so far, I really hope it ultimately does well. What would be good about Sony failing, and Microsoft dominating? Nothing, really. There's a fat chance a newcomer would be able to have an impact, either. Sony is needed to keep this generation in a healthy state of competition.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-28 05:37 [#02039383]
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How has selling out of every available unit been 'hilariously dire' performance? The sales volumes have nothing to do with a lack of demand.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2007-01-28 05:40 [#02039385]
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doesnt a ps3 cost like 1500 $?
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-28 05:41 [#02039388]
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More, you missed and 0 off the end or something !?!?!?!?!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 05:56 [#02039401]
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i thought in japan they had units left over outside of tokyo which is pretty much unheard of?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 06:10 [#02039416]
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Perhaps I was wrong in the OP, but I've in a number of forums (including Edge online) about the PS3's dismal performance so far.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 06:22 [#02039422]
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yeh it was the japanese Edge column that im referring to if i remember it correctly.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-28 06:23 [#02039423]
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Lies, lies and more lies.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2007-01-28 06:30 [#02039429]
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i've never had a playstation. always seemed a bit overrated
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-28 06:37 [#02039430]
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Nah, they have priced the PS3 out of most peoples range.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 06:38 [#02039433]
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fuck PS3. Sega megadrive all the way.
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staz
on 2007-01-28 07:04 [#02039443]
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PS3 has done well, like the PSP has done well. It's just that its competitors have all done really well.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2007-01-28 07:06 [#02039444]
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for once, i agree with Ezkerraldean.
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PNES
on 2007-01-28 07:08 [#02039445]
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[( )] : ps1
[=__] : ps2
[????] : ps3 (only the future knows for sure)
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-28 07:17 [#02039447]
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[=__]* : ps3/ps2 but more shiny
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-01-28 08:30 [#02039482]
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(=__) maybe?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 08:38 [#02039485]
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i read somewhere the wii outsold the PS3 2 to 1 in the run up to christmas.
my mega drive is broken, my dreamcast is broken. i am so upset. at least my snes and N64 still work. i am replaying donkey knog country 3.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-01-28 08:45 [#02039487]
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Fuck Ps3, Wii forever.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-01-28 13:07 [#02039623]
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fuck consoles period.
it's all about pc's point blank.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2007-01-28 16:40 [#02039772]
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I haven't gotten bored enought with my DS to go out and buy another console.
I thought everyone waits like 2 years and price drops to about 1/4 of the original, then they start selling like hotcakes. Unless you're Nintendo - where that shit is cheap as soon as it hits the shelves. Nintendo4lyfe
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shady
from chicago (United States) on 2007-01-28 16:52 [#02039780]
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i thought the ps3 went for 600$ i got my psp stolen last year (+[__]::)
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2007-01-28 16:56 [#02039781]
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you can get both a wii and an xbox 360 for the price of a bloody ps3
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-28 16:56 [#02039782]
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The 360 is rollin' and the other two systems have one good exclusive game each so I haven't splurged on them yet. The PS3's library is as slow to grow as the PS2's was, but this time Sony doesn't have the benefit of the doubt and they're gonna suffer for it. There's a ton of great games coming out for it but I doubt they'll catch M$ in US sales or overall library swellness.
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shady
from chicago (United States) on 2007-01-28 17:42 [#02039797]
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i dont know what system to get after i get a new psp. theres so many diffrent opinions on which is better.
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shady
from chicago (United States) on 2007-01-28 17:43 [#02039798]
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the only new system ive tryed was the Xbox 360
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-28 17:44 [#02039799]
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i bought 3 of them
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-01-28 17:50 [#02039803]
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"How has selling out of every available unit been 'hilariously dire' performance? The sales volumes have nothing to do with a lack of demand."
It's easy to sell every unit when you cut your production to 1/10th demand. The claimed production "problems", causing a limited initial run. I'm sure it was more a marketing gimick...
Not to mention the demand is far less than the XBOX360 demand; which had a better launch, and likely for the future much better titles (due to many japanese game studios deciding not to develop/port games for the PS3 because they think the price is too high for the console, resulting in fewer console sales, and even fewer game sales). The PS3 actually sold for $100 less in Japan due to this fact.
There's always the rumour of Macintosh coming out with a console... iGame.. yay! (not.)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-28 18:04 [#02039807]
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Neither xbox nor xbox360 has in any way outdone respectively ps2 or ps3 in game quality.. not in existing, nor in upcoming games.
Hell, the metal gear solid series alone outweighs any and all of xbox' games, and add to that the silent hill series and the final fantasy series, and you've got a winner.
The only "next-gen" console I've tried properly yet is the Wii, and.. well, I had high hopes, actually, but I was thoroughly let down. The control system sucks (inaccurate to the max) and, for all the nice words about "innovativeness" and such, there seem to be surprisingly few actually innovative games. I've tried a few minutes on a 360 (so not properly), but I wasn't particularly impressed with the graphics. However, I don't really believe I'll be going "WOW!" at the ps3 graphics either: it all looks the same now, except for Wii which just looks crap.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-28 19:16 [#02039868]
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The PS2 has hands down the best library. But the Xbox had tons of great exclusives and was a strong foundation for the 360. Ninja Gaiden was better than any comparable game for PS2, Sega put out a shitload of cool niche games that never appeared on the PS2 (Panzer Dragoon Orta, Otogi, Shenmue, Jetset Radio Future, etc), the 3rd party games were always better on Xbox (the PS2 version of Max Payne is pathetic while the Xbox version wails), and the Xbox got a lot of PC ports that never appeared on the PS2. Thief 3 being my second favorite game of the gen, I had to play it on Xbox because it ran like shit on my PC. Rallisport Challenge 2> any PS2 racer.
And the thing is, a lot of the exclusives that gave the PS2 the advantage over the Xbox are no longer exclusives. Silent Hill hasn't been an exclusive in years, I have The Room for original Xbox, and SH5 will be on 360. GTA3 is the game that got PS2 out of its initial funk, but the 360 is getting GTA4 at the same time, there goes that trump card.
Most worrying is that the PS3 doesn't have a killer-app with mass appeal, or any in sight. MGS and FF aren't going to be near enough, don't kid yourself. MGS is definitely the best series around but it's not a major system seller, and FF13 is an RPG... they were counting on Resistance to shift some units, but Gears of War overshadowed it. PS3 doesn't have a Halo and they don't even have the GTA exclusivity thing. Those are the games that change fortunes, not MGS. Which leads to bigger userbase which leads to more 3rd party support which leads to a bigger library. What's going to turn the tide for PS3? Especially with Halo 3 on the horizon, which will be a mainstream event Sony won't be able to match (loathe as I am to admit it).
M$ also seems to have first dibs on PC ports, and there are some great ones on the way... Bioshock was cancelled for PS3 but is a go for 360. And Alan Wake is 360/PC only.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-28 19:20 [#02039871]
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-----PART TWO-----
I'm a Sony fanboy so I want to believe Sony can pull this off. God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, the next game in the ICO/Shadow of the Colossus bloodline... it's going to have a great library, definitely better than the Wii's, but the days of Sony getting third-party AAA exclusives in the droves are over. It will be a long, long time before they match the 360's library.
The Wii will sell but it won't be able to compete with the games on the other two, the ''innovation over horsepower'' tactic is weaksauce considering that the games aren't even innovative at all and the system's lack of juice will prevent it from getting RESIDENT MOTHERFUCKING EVIL 5. Instead it gets a shitty spinoff build around the Wiimotea and recycling old environments. Yeah, that sounds inspiring.
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OK
on 2007-01-28 21:13 [#02039902]
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If i were to choose a system right now, I'd choose the 360, simply because it has very good games and the others don't (yet). as i see it wii is playing for a different market so it's not in direct competition with microsoft and sony.
sony looks fucked.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2007-01-28 21:47 [#02039916]
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In 6 months the xbox360 won't be able to handle the graphics my PC is producing.
And why are you people buying PSPs? Are their commercials really that convincing? What a waste of money to own a brick that requires you to re-purchase all your dvds in a new format so you can take it on an airplane, watch 2 movies with no sound (unless you have headphones because the jet engine will drown out its shitty speakers) before the battery dies due to the huge lcd screen that has poor refresh rate. Or maybe you bought it for the wireless internet which requires you to select every key you want to type manually with a d-pad. Super fast internet browsing that actually waits on you as you type the urls ! Only 250$$ Plus another $100 for decent mem storage (not included).
Spore for DS anyone?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-28 22:32 [#02039933]
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Even now the 360 isn't up to par with PC hardware but that never stopped the PS2 from dominating. There's so much money in consoles that most games will be developed with that mind. Truly prohibitive technological envelope pushers like Crysis come along... just about never, everything gets ported. Even Half Life 2 for Xbox was very playable. The 360 will almost act as a bottleneck because devs see what games like Halo and Gears of War are doing and say ''hey, we need to put this game on the 360'', so the 360 isn't in any danger of becoming obsolete anytime soon.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-28 22:36 [#02039935]
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As far as the PSP is concerned, I'm getting one for the awesome Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops alone. Maybe not a smart investment but it's MY investment.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2007-01-28 22:41 [#02039937]
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Agreed, I just think its annoying that 360 isn't backwards compatible. That's where playstation rules, imo
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-28 22:46 [#02039938]
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I think Sony dropped the ball this time with regards to backwards compatibility. I was looking forward to playing games like SOTC and MGS3 in HD, and I would already own a PS3 if I could, but they blew it with wonky BC.
360's is even wonkier but at least most of the games I like are properly emulated (except for Thief 3 and Rallisport 2) and they look awesome scaled up to HD. PS2 games are such an eyesore on HDTVs, while Xbox1 games look superb. This really grinds my gears.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-29 03:22 [#02040012]
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I saw gears of war, and.. what's the fuss? People are like "best game of the year," but it looks like generic shooter #508940. Halo is usually fun, but only when you can do co-op.
And, MGS4 and the new final fantasies will be more than enough, at least for me.. Those (and silent hill) are just about the only games worth playing anyway.. there are so many "new" games coming out all the time that don't have anything new about them at all... and where did the good adventure games go? I'm going to try out tunguska, but I think I'm going to be disappointed again.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-29 05:13 [#02040046]
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i wanna get a ps3 out of the next genconsoles. except, theres not a chance in hell im gonna be getting one anytime soon with that price. i just hope there are small surprises along the way to make the ps3 good. the ps2 was awesome, and then after the xbox came out, they still started releasing awesome games. i dunno, i just hope nothing happens to sony or the ps3 cos i want more of these awesome games showing up. the only game on 360 that interests me is dead rising.
the wii has zelda and mario..andsuch. plus i never got a gamecube so im gonna have to get a wii some time soon and catch up to the max.
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