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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:44 [#02039087]
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home_set
yup - fresh meat from da sadist.
this was the set i played supporting murcof last week - we didn't have any way to record it then so i just played it a few moments ago again.
it may sound a bit weird at times and there are lots of mistakes in it - but that is due to the setup that i was using.
i got tired by all those people using ableton just like traktor for their live-sets, playing their original tracks betmatched and with no chance for a mistake.
no wonder that people say that ableton is no real instrument then - i mean they could also record the whole set on winamp,m press play and play quake.
so i'm constantly trying to find an interesting way to somehow make my live-sets in fact "live" and interesting for the public.
i thought about the setups of exile or daedelus and came to an idea between that.
so - my setup consists of a reaktor ensemble that i created with parts from tim exile's beatmasher that the native-instrument-forum-crew recreated.
i made it 8 channel now, added sends, filters, more control over the smple and an easier interface that would tell me exactly what's going on.
the idea is following: i have 8 channels with different beats, one shot samples, drumloops, short melody loops. i feed them into this ensemble and - as you will hear it - it divides every sample automatically into 8 parts which i can juggle around beatmatched.
now the biggest clue - i can record the beatjuggle and edit it further - everything gets recorded on and on until i want.
there is also a sort of "granulizer" - you'll hear it too :D
everything is locked to my both midiboxes - the behringer bcr and my own diy midibox.
and the effect was great - the audience was really stonished by what's going on because the could see my hands lfying around the knobs and could actually hear that everyhing that happens to the music was made live on-set.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:46 [#02039088]
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a christ i thought this thread would be perfect
correct link
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:52 [#02039094]
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the reaktor patch itself underneath:
oh - in fact you could ask why is there ableton in the background?
so - as i only have two hands and was constantly busy with mashing beats i had to somehow push the tracks further in time so they wouldn't get to boring - so i exported the melodical content of every track as one long wav file that is playing in the background.
you could ask - why not implenting this into reaktor and playing only with it and toss out ableton from this setup: now the answet is quite simple - reaktor is a bitch when it comes to handle big files - my ones had about 80 megs each and it just sometimes died when loading one.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 10:55 [#02039099]
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here again my diy midibox that i is perfectly suited to this interface together with my behringer.
diy midibox - hihpass filter - lowpass filter - main volume of each channel - gain
behringer - send effect 1 (reverb) - send effect 2 (delay) - regulations for delay and reverb (like cutof etc.)
pc keyboard - all the magic - bet jugglinf, granulizer, gate, and everything was launched with different buttons on my keyboard
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 13:09 [#02039142]
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adding a yousendit link in case the download from the ftp will be slow:
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blaaard
from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-01-27 13:24 [#02039145]
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you should use more dbblue glitch imo.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 13:47 [#02039157]
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don't be a bitch - it's just that you haven't even changed the settings of it because it sounds ecactly fresh out of the box. you probably even have put it on "random"
i mean that's just not the way it goes - there is no something like "instant-idm" where you make a drumloop, add a few effects and the track is made.
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blaaard
from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-01-27 13:59 [#02039165]
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HAHAH!
i'm pretty confident more than 50% of what people call idm IS random and improvised. so why not try and use a readymade effects thing like glitch straight out of the box and stay with it? why should this be a no go? what makes you think i'm trying to make it sound hand made? it's not, it comes out of a crappy computer. quite contemporary. [sorry for cluttering your thread]
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:11 [#02039171]
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[nobody is interested in the subject of the topiv anyway so as long as i can bump it replying to your posts it's cool with me]
it's quite sad what you say - i mean it may be right that most of 'what people call idm" is made randomly but that doesn't mean that you should hold on to this but in fact - against it work on your tracks. i think that this way otf thinking is what causes idm to slowly die and why more and more people dislike it.
on the other hand - i don't see nothing wrong in making a few parts of tracks randomly - in fact this can even have an artistic output - i mean just look - computer generated randomness will never be random - there is always a pattern or algorythm behind it or some mathematical equation so using randomness on computers can be used to just show that nature of machines.
but using dbglueglitch and even not turning any of the knobs on it is going way to far - imagine everyone starts doing that.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-27 14:14 [#02039174]
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I really like the pics you've posted. They really catch the mood. Awesome.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:17 [#02039179]
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do you think so ? damn and i was afraid that pictures of my cock twiddling knobs would be inadequate.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-27 14:19 [#02039180]
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I'm sure trentee and swifty are your biggest fans.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-27 14:20 [#02039182]
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:24 [#02039186]
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thank god
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-27 14:40 [#02039194]
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i like your stuff,prob wont play it untill tomorrow but just skipping through it now sounds good.
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blaaard
from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-01-27 14:41 [#02039195]
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i have to agree with what you're saying there.... however it is just one approach to it... if it's your ideal to work against the out-of-a-box idmism, that's great, more power to you.
but using all that readymade stuff has to be part of the overall continuosity and evolution of electronic music. it's possible, so it has to be done in a way. As an individual, you can't do anything about it anyway... too many people on this planet, zero distance. The internet has no purpose, and it's full of random rubbish. Exactly like the music i've posted. On the internet. That's what happens from my point of view.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-27 14:58 [#02039204]
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nope - effort and constantly trying to "be better" is what pushes forward music (and actually everything) - not putting any work into something makes it useless.
yeah but yout right that is my opinion. let's be friends
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-28 13:49 [#02039651]
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bump
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2007-01-28 13:54 [#02039654]
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haha that midibox and bcr look so ghetto. why did you rape the bcr so much?
I wish I was good in electronics, then I'd put my bcr in a nice case. not in the ugly default one.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-28 15:04 [#02039694]
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very nice,let me do your album artwork when you make it.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-28 16:00 [#02039755]
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istnie: it takes a few cm less space this way and finally fits into a vinyl hard-case. otherwise it won't.
hanal: i'd be honoured. but careful - it won't happen very fast.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-01-28 16:10 [#02039763]
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Downloading. What did u think about my hiphop mix?
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2007-01-28 16:30 [#02039767]
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listening, won't have the time to check the whole thing tonight but I'll get back it tomorrow
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-28 17:35 [#02039795]
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hm... must have missed something ?
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2007-01-29 05:49 [#02040055]
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Btw sadist home is more messy then on the photos, I think he has cleaned for the pictures!
Downloading.
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zero-cool
on 2007-01-29 05:49 [#02040056]
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:(..
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-29 05:53 [#02040058]
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nah - my music-making-workspace is the only part that i try to stay clean
what's up zero ?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-29 14:39 [#02040538]
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This is really very good. The start sounds like it could be FSOL. Still listening to it, but great so far.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2007-01-29 16:10 [#02040601]
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I'm digging the ping pong toms pulsating and making my head bounce into oblivion. I like your style Mr. Sadist
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2007-02-01 06:12 [#02042712]
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Nice one mr. Sadist, Plonk is the winner.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2007-02-01 06:56 [#02042739]
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Yeah this was enjoyable stuff, a keeper!
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-02-01 07:07 [#02042745]
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