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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-01-18 03:54 [#02033909]
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of the artists you listen to. Lets say your favourite Musician, DJ whatever, turns out to be a NAZI or a makes some racists comments in an interview, like Eric Clapton. Would you stop listening to his music
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-18 03:58 [#02033912]
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I can't deny it wouldn't put me off, but with instrumental music I'm not sure it matters. It would only really bother me if there were lyrics that either directly or indirectly conformed to the artist's idiotic viewpoints.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-18 04:01 [#02033913]
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I agree with CS2x's feelings on the matter.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-18 04:01 [#02033914]
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if the musics good i wouldnt give a shit. if a dj/electronic artists made some really racist comments i'd probably hate them and feel weird listening to them, but after awhile i'd get over it and enjoy the music.
if i was into someone like eric clapton, any singer, and they put their politicial/racial views in their lyrics, and they were too extreme or i didnt agree with them, thats another case. i might resort to ignoring the music..
that said! beck is now a widely known scientologist, and their are some songs that fans kiiiiinda believe have references and such, but i dont really see it. even if it were blatantly obvious and his lyrics were clearly showcasing his views on religion or whatever, but the music was still good, i'd continue listening to his music.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-01-18 04:02 [#02033915]
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Maybe the IDEAS itself infect your brain just through the music?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-18 04:06 [#02033916]
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I thought beck was just raised as a scientologist (I didn't realise he was now)? I'm no big fan, so might well be wrong, but that's the impression that I got.
Either way, I don't really think his lyrics mean much to most people, even if they make sense to him. By and large they seem to be nonsense, although that doesn't detract from my enjoyment of them.
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ebolawasher
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2007-01-18 05:10 [#02033932]
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Wouldn't matter to me. Many musical geniuses have been oddballs. It's a different story with lyrics, though. That said, I mostly listen to instrumental work. Vocals can ruin metal for me... or at least take from it's power... Megadeth - "I've mastered magics, five!" [wince]
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-18 05:20 [#02033937]
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its both i believe. was raised as scientologist and it's only been recently that in interviews and such do we know that he's still one now.
also, there are people who work very hard day and night, analyzing and trying to work out just what each and every beck song is about.. with his newer albums, it seems either beck songs are losing creativity or beck fans aren't able to find deep hidden meanings within them. and of course, there are fans who blame this on his association with scientology.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-01-18 05:25 [#02033939]
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Do you mean you have to 100% agree on every topic with the artist to be able to enjoy his art?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-18 05:29 [#02033942]
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No, but imagine windowlicker had some wanky boy band lyrics about unrequited love over the top. It'd make the track worse, wouldn't it?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-01-18 05:38 [#02033945]
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I used to listen to Atari teenage riot a lot, but i completely disagree with their viewpoints.
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zero-cool
on 2007-01-18 06:03 [#02033954]
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eric clapton? loool
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Rostasky
from United States on 2007-01-18 07:27 [#02033968]
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I like music to be abstract.
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ebolawasher
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2007-01-18 07:39 [#02033973]
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Minor chords make me sad, and I can't bear the feeling of anticipation sevenths give me.
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-01-18 09:19 [#02034007]
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It really would depend on how forceful they are in the projections of those sentiments... If the main goal of the music is to spread a message I'm not confortable with, I'd cast it off in a heartbeat. But if it's their personal views, seperate from the music.. that's another matter.
Also.. got me to thinking, to what end do you seperate the musicians' views from the musician?
It's one thing to say "X is a nazi, so I won't buy their album", but taken a step further... "X likes brussel sprouts, I hate brussel sprouts, they just lost a fan!!"
oh, btw - I actually like brussel sprouts.
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uviol
from United States on 2007-01-18 09:25 [#02034015]
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I really don't care too much about personal views of musicians, but as others have pointed out, it can taint the music if someone's public persona is less than attractive.
As far as political lyrics, I generally prefer music without them. There's nothing wrong with that venue of expression necessarily, but I find it cheapens the music itself and is rarely done tastefully. Rage Against the Machine, for example, really rubs me the wrong way.. as do alot of punk bands.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-18 09:30 [#02034017]
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I'm never bothered by it. I listen to a lot of stuff that would fall under the fascist category (NON/Boyd Rice), and stuff that has a sort of fascist fetishism (Von Thronstahl, Death in June, Blood Axis), but I'm... not a fascist, nossir. People with different ideas, lol. I'm attracted to things that I'm not, like, really into, y'know. Even with the peace/love/no war stuff, I don't really feel any particular affection for the message but I do damn sure love me some sunshine pop.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-19 17:20 [#02034761]
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If you want angst, nothing beats a minor 9th.
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