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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 19:38 [#02032960]
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...to like a Cafe Del Mar compilation?
I dled Jose Padilla's one and I must say I'm quite enjoying it. Not the usual ibiza chill out sort of record at all.
Hell, it even has a tasteful remix of Satie's first gymnopedie on it.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 19:46 [#02032963]
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If you can honestly say to yourself "You know, I fucking dig the shit out of this" then how can it be wrong?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 19:47 [#02032964]
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Though I'd be quite interested to hear a distasteful Satie remix.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-15 19:49 [#02032965]
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Satie himself was the first remixer - his Sonata Bureaucratique was a remix of a Clementi sonatina.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 20:10 [#02032966]
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Well, I don't dig the shit out of it- I wouldn't buy it- it's just that it's actually, "okay", whereas usually any album remotely to do with the balearic dance scene is, well, wank.
As to the distasteful Satie remix: I can imagine one. Sped up 33%, played on a Rhodes, with delay on it, so it sounds like house track. 909 drum line and a female vocal soaked in reverb repeating "higher" in a diva style every 2 bars. During the breakdown, the drums get distorted and the rhodes drops out, and is replaced by a 303 being 'played' by the internal sequencer. Needless to say, all the emotion and subtlety of the original is lost no matter how well it is programmed and it murders the original in one fell swoop.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 20:23 [#02032967]
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Sometimes I have felt myself seduced by bad chill out compilations, they catch you off guard, you think "Yes, it's cheesy sure, but the production values are great and there's some really interesting use of fucking old samples strung out over 3 to 6 minutes"... but then as the hangover clears and the self loathing sets in, you realise, it's all wank.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 20:30 [#02032969]
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Yes, I'm listening to the KLF's "chill out" now and it illustrates the inferiority of these sort of compilations well. As well as working as a "ripped to the tits and haven't slept for 2 nights" early morning soundtrack, it's also actually a good bit of music in its own right that you would listen to when you weren't in such a state.
I think my greatest temptation with those compilations is that not only does it sound okay, it's not really objectionable in any way (a bit like "Chill FM" on DAB), so my girlfriend or musically stunted friends can't complain when I have it on in the background at dinner/a games evening etc. I have to catch myself, because if you follow that line of thinking, before you know it, you're 40 and that sort of shit is the only music you buy and you find yourself going for ever more "safe" music, until eventually you start listening to classic fm and then you're effectively dead.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 20:47 [#02032973]
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It's background music, it's good background music, I don't think there's anything wrong particularly about that, I think it's admirable that some people put a lot of effort into making something quite so innocuous. It's kind of utility music, the same as perfumed candles, after eight mints and a bottle of rosé. It's better that you and your mates sit about and have fun with a cheesy soundtrack than all sitting there stoney faced working out what vst was used on a particularly unpalatable bit of glitch.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 21:03 [#02032977]
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Yes, I see your point. Last time I had a poker evening I put a dubstep album on and only one of them liked it. The others hated it and insisted I changed it because "It was putting them off". I had actually calculated the tense brooding atmosphere to make them a bit more on edge and likely to take silly risk. It paid off as I came away 65% up overall.
I think my fear is that I might start buying that sort of music instead of my sort of music, as opposed to as well as.
I also think you have a point regarding putting so much effort into something that people will never really "listen" to. You listen to some and can hear how well it's produced and wonder why the people don't make something a bit more respected. Perhaps there's good money in it?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-15 22:30 [#02032993]
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It's only wrong for people with really small heads.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 22:34 [#02032997]
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Ah well, I'm a size "Large" for most helmet makes, so it must be fine for me.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-15 22:45 [#02033003]
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AH HA HA HA, A LARGE??! YOUR HEAD IS COMICALLY HUMONGOUS!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-15 23:30 [#02033004]
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yes, wrong.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 23:46 [#02033007]
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w M w: If you'd like a project to keep yourself out of mischief, why not try making that tasteless Satie remix I described?
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-01-15 23:52 [#02033008]
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That's quite insensitive w M w; perhaps he has some sort head enlarging disease. How inconsiderate...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 01:53 [#02033042]
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Here's your stupid eric satie remix. It's good enough for you.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-16 02:06 [#02033046]
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WOnderful! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 02:19 [#02033050]
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Maybe while you listen to it you can close your eyes and escape to a make believe world where your head is of an average size. Its like an orange on a toothpick. It's like Sputnik. Spherical but quite pointy in parts. You'll be cryin yourself to sleep tonite on your huge pilla'.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-01-16 07:44 [#02033118]
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respect
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-01-16 07:57 [#02033122]
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This is excellent. Your music is generally excellent, fun, radical, original and quite punkish. I love it. Could you send me an exhaustive archive of your works?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-01-16 09:11 [#02033147]
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Ha ha ha! That's the music Aphex Twin would make if he still had a pair. A pair of ZOMBIE CARL STALLINGS.
BIG UPS TO MY HOMEY POINTY SPHJERICAL YO YO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE YO
and then wmw let the compliments go to his head and changed his name to DJ BMW and the beautiful dream was over
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-16 09:37 [#02033156]
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If you like it, then who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks? I have shitloads of "embaressing" music, which sites very comfortably in a misc folder on my hard drive. You can't be IDM all the time.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2007-01-16 09:50 [#02033159]
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most satie 'remixes' that I've heard are shit
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uviol
from United States on 2007-01-16 11:19 [#02033195]
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I'm intrigued by the 'staz' song.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2007-01-16 11:39 [#02033199]
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how can liking music be wrong? okay unless you're listening to live recordings of kitten skulls being crushed with tools made from human bones..
i got all the buddha bar discs, and some supperclub lounge crap. nice backdrop when you don't want to have to (haha) pay attention to all the hardcore glitching going on.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-01-16 12:01 [#02033207]
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I like handbag house music too, buddy, don't worry.
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avart
from nomo' on 2007-01-16 12:25 [#02033228]
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I was listening to Robert Miles "Children" while biking to work today. Even though the whole "oomp-oomp-oomp"-trance beat bores me to death I think it is a good song.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-16 12:29 [#02033229]
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as long as it isn't the one with the free penis in the cover
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-16 13:51 [#02033274]
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Is it wrong not to always be glad ? No, its not wrong - but I must add How can someone so young Sing words so sad ?
BUMP BUMP
Sheila take a Sheila take a bow boot the grim of this world etc
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-01-16 15:01 [#02033305]
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excellent taste my good sir!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-16 17:15 [#02033352]
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Not at all. Someone was bumping one of those school disco reunion nostalgia discs in work today. It's easy to get sniffy about music. I find myself more forgiving with age.
I tend to be a bit harder when it comes to films though. One of my female friends was praising that film The Holiday the other day and I almost vomited.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-16 18:34 [#02033374]
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I remember that british chick who had the theme song for that show about that city in america where there were lots of ufos was on one of the cafre del mar compilations
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 20:10 [#02033410]
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Will this picture of one waffle cone with pluralized 'waffle cones' written above it suffice?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-01-16 20:15 [#02033413]
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Although I must admit it is pretty good, I'll be frank with you, no it won't.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 20:25 [#02033416]
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Plus this too:
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-01-16 21:04 [#02033418]
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still not quite it
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