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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 19:38 [#02032960]
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...to like a Cafe Del Mar compilation?

I dled Jose Padilla's one and I must say I'm quite enjoying
it. Not the usual ibiza chill out sort of record at all.

Hell, it even has a tasteful remix of Satie's first
gymnopedie on it.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 19:46 [#02032963]
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If you can honestly say to yourself "You know, I fucking dig
the shit out of this" then how can it be wrong?


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 19:47 [#02032964]
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Though I'd be quite interested to hear a distasteful Satie
remix.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-01-15 19:49 [#02032965]
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Satie himself was the first remixer - his Sonata
Bureaucratique was a remix of a Clementi sonatina.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 20:10 [#02032966]
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Well, I don't dig the shit out of it- I wouldn't buy it-
it's just that it's actually, "okay", whereas usually any
album remotely to do with the balearic dance scene is, well,
wank.

As to the distasteful Satie remix: I can imagine one. Sped
up 33%, played on a Rhodes, with delay on it, so it sounds
like house track. 909 drum line and a female vocal soaked in
reverb repeating "higher" in a diva style every 2 bars.
During the breakdown, the drums get distorted and the rhodes
drops out, and is replaced by a 303 being 'played' by the
internal sequencer. Needless to say, all the emotion and
subtlety of the original is lost no matter how well it is
programmed and it murders the original in one fell swoop.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 20:23 [#02032967]
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Sometimes I have felt myself seduced by bad chill out
compilations, they catch you off guard, you think "Yes, it's
cheesy sure, but the production values are great and there's
some really interesting use of fucking old samples strung
out over 3 to 6 minutes"... but then as the hangover clears
and the self loathing sets in, you realise, it's all wank.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 20:30 [#02032969]
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Yes, I'm listening to the KLF's "chill out" now and it
illustrates the inferiority of these sort of compilations
well. As well as working as a "ripped to the tits and
haven't slept for 2 nights" early morning soundtrack, it's
also actually a good bit of music in its own right that you
would listen to when you weren't in such a state.

I think my greatest temptation with those compilations is
that not only does it sound okay, it's not really
objectionable in any way (a bit like "Chill FM" on DAB), so
my girlfriend or musically stunted friends can't complain
when I have it on in the background at dinner/a games
evening etc. I have to catch myself, because if you follow
that line of thinking, before you know it, you're 40 and
that sort of shit is the only music you buy and you find
yourself going for ever more "safe" music, until eventually
you start listening to classic fm and then you're
effectively dead.



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-15 20:47 [#02032973]
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It's background music, it's good background music, I don't
think there's anything wrong particularly about that, I
think it's admirable that some people put a lot of effort
into making something quite so innocuous. It's kind of
utility music, the same as perfumed candles, after eight
mints and a bottle of rosé. It's better that you and your
mates sit about and have fun with a cheesy soundtrack than
all sitting there stoney faced working out what vst was used
on a particularly unpalatable bit of glitch.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 21:03 [#02032977]
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Yes, I see your point. Last time I had a poker evening I put
a dubstep album on and only one of them liked it. The others
hated it and insisted I changed it because "It was putting
them off". I had actually calculated the tense brooding
atmosphere to make them a bit more on edge and likely to
take silly risk. It paid off as I came away 65% up overall.

I think my fear is that I might start buying that sort of
music instead of my sort of music, as opposed to as
well as.

I also think you have a point regarding putting so much
effort into something that people will never really "listen"
to. You listen to some and can hear how well it's produced
and wonder why the people don't make something a bit more
respected. Perhaps there's good money in it?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-15 22:30 [#02032993]
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It's only wrong for people with really small heads.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 22:34 [#02032997]
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Ah well, I'm a size "Large" for most helmet makes, so it
must be fine for me.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-15 22:45 [#02033003]
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AH HA HA HA, A LARGE??! YOUR HEAD IS COMICALLY
HUMONGOUS!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-15 23:30 [#02033004]
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yes, wrong.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 23:46 [#02033007]
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w M w: If you'd like a project to keep yourself out of
mischief, why not try making that tasteless Satie remix I
described?


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-01-15 23:52 [#02033008]
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That's quite insensitive w M w; perhaps he has some sort
head enlarging disease. How inconsiderate...


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 01:53 [#02033042]
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Here's your stupid eric satie remix. It's
good enough for you.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-16 02:06 [#02033046]
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WOnderful! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 02:19 [#02033050]
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Maybe while you listen to it you can close your eyes and
escape to a make believe world where your head is of an
average size. Its like an orange on a toothpick. It's like
Sputnik. Spherical but quite pointy in parts. You'll be
cryin yourself to sleep tonite on your huge pilla'.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-01-16 07:44 [#02033118]
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respect


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2007-01-16 07:57 [#02033122]
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This is excellent. Your music is generally excellent, fun,
radical, original and quite punkish. I love it. Could you
send me an exhaustive archive of your works?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2007-01-16 09:11 [#02033147]
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Ha ha ha! That's the music Aphex Twin would make if he still
had a pair. A pair of ZOMBIE CARL STALLINGS.

BIG UPS TO MY HOMEY POINTY SPHJERICAL YO YO CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE YO

and then wmw let the compliments go to his head and changed
his name to DJ BMW and the beautiful dream was over


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-16 09:37 [#02033156]
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If you like it, then who gives a fuck what anyone else
thinks? I have shitloads of "embaressing" music, which sites
very comfortably in a misc folder on my hard drive. You
can't be IDM all the time.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2007-01-16 09:50 [#02033159]
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most satie 'remixes' that I've heard are shit


 

offline uviol from United States on 2007-01-16 11:19 [#02033195]
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I'm intrigued by the 'staz' song.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2007-01-16 11:39 [#02033199]
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how can liking music be wrong? okay unless you're listening
to live recordings of kitten skulls being crushed with tools
made from human bones..

i got all the buddha bar discs, and some supperclub lounge
crap. nice backdrop when you don't want to have to (haha)
pay attention to all the hardcore glitching going on.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2007-01-16 12:01 [#02033207]
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I like handbag house music too, buddy, don't worry.


 

offline avart from nomo' on 2007-01-16 12:25 [#02033228]
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I was listening to Robert Miles "Children" while biking to
work today. Even though the whole "oomp-oomp-oomp"-trance
beat bores me to death I think it is a good song.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-16 12:29 [#02033229]
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as long as it isn't the one with the free penis in the cover


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-01-16 13:51 [#02033274]
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Is it wrong not to always be glad ?
No, its not wrong - but I must add
How can someone so young
Sing words so sad ?

BUMP BUMP

Sheila take a
Sheila take a bow
boot the grim of this world etc


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-01-16 15:01 [#02033305]
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excellent taste my good sir!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-16 17:15 [#02033352]
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Not at all. Someone was bumping one of those school disco
reunion nostalgia discs in work today. It's easy to get
sniffy about music. I find myself more forgiving with age.

I tend to be a bit harder when it comes to films though. One
of my female friends was praising that film The Holiday the
other day and I almost vomited.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-16 18:34 [#02033374]
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I remember that british chick who had the theme song for
that show about that city in america where there were lots
of ufos was on one of the cafre del mar compilations


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 20:10 [#02033410]
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Will this picture of one waffle cone with pluralized 'waffle
cones' written above it suffice?


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offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2007-01-16 20:15 [#02033413]
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Although I must admit it is pretty good, I'll be frank with
you, no it won't.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-16 20:25 [#02033416]
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Plus this too:


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offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2007-01-16 21:04 [#02033418]
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still not quite it


 


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