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RE: The Jehovahs made me get up...
 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 11:19 [#00125670]
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The doorbell just went forcing me to get dressed and get
up. I went and it was Jehovahs. To be fair he didn't try to
bore me he just left a tract with me. I am currently looking
for bible quotes that disprove their theology. I'm going to
prepare myself for when they come back....

There's stuff on the site www.religioustolerance.org and
also
www.chick.com

When I find some bible ref.s I'll put them up. Even if
you're not a Christian, you can use them to prove how the
Jehovah's theology is self contradicting.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 11:26 [#00125676]
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Well, my neighbour is this gypsy Jehova's witness and his
such a funny person that I always take all these brochures
and leaflets from him... Anyway, they apparently claim that
a lot of misconceptions on christianity come from
inappropriate translation of Bible (like, they claim that
the word that was translated as "cross" just ment stake,
that Jesus was not crucified but nailed to this stake and so
on). Anyway, fuck them and the rest of christians...


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 11:26 [#00125677]
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And the rest of religions. And atheists too. That should
have covered about everything.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-14 11:30 [#00125680]
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I always say: not interested, then they go away. There's no
point in argueing, they're fanatics. They're looking for a
discussion and if you fall for it, they'll come back more
often. Think about it. Don't even accept any of their
propaganda. Make them feel that what they're doing is
useless.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 11:39 [#00125686]
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Uh the one I am talking about has some kind of speaking
disability and is on top of it drunk most of time (or looks
drunk...) so he's really completely beyond arguing.. I like
him somehow...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 11:40 [#00125688]
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I've never had any. My Mum invited them in once because she
was bored I think. They kept coming back.

If I get any I'll invite them in and talk Marxist dogma at
them until they leave.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 11:44 [#00125690]
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That'll be a showdown. However, jonesy, they'll claim that
their truth comes directly from god (a serious source, we'll
all agree) and where does yours?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 12:03 [#00125696]
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My arse, same as theirs ha, ha.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 12:05 [#00125697]
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Ugh, there's no need to be rude. I'm just saying that when
they claim they have this source of absolute truth, what are
you left with? Providing that you are aware that you can not
prove to them that god does not exist.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 12:08 [#00125701]
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Sorry. My truth comes from the material world around me. I
know you can always question knowledge but you've got to
start somewhere. I like to start by rejecting superstition.
I don't believe in God, Jesus, Father Xmas, the Easter
Rabbit or the Tooth Fairy. Though the bogeyman does exist.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-14 12:15 [#00125707]
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Jonesy, if the Tooth Fairy doesn't exist, how do you explain
where my babyteeth have gone? It's the Tooth Fairy I tell ya
:)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 12:15 [#00125708]
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Uhm. So, you are sure of certain things being absolutely
true, without having an absolute authority to confirm it?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 12:30 [#00125712]
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Yep, why not?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 12:35 [#00125717]
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Uhm, you don't see any contradiction in it?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 12:39 [#00125719]
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I believe whatever makes sense, is logical and is based on
evidence. There is no absolute truth or authority but you
can't keep on questioning otherwise you'd never be able to
assert anything.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 12:47 [#00125721]
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Yeah, yeah, questioning is, as you say very important. Even
of those things you yourself consider unqestionable, is all
I got to say.


 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-03-14 12:48 [#00125722]
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um i think geesus do post here frequently yeah..


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 12:53 [#00125725]
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Trying to lghten the air a bit, are we?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 13:01 [#00125732]
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There's a phone-in on the radio about creation theory. All
these muppets are phoning in saying that evolutionary theory
is ridiculous as opposed, of course, to the totally logical
Genesis account of the world's creation. Hmmm


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:04 [#00125735]
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Well, when you look at it, it's not so different. I mean,
these religious dudes claim to have been having the actual
truth for the last 2000 years. Whereas science always claims
it has just found the truth out. No real difference.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 13:06 [#00125737]
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Surely its about what each explanation is based on?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:11 [#00125744]
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Yeah, but each time science claims that this is the actual
fact. Even if it is contradictory to another fact that was
its "truth" yesterday. Dig it?

By the way, do you like my new pic?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 13:13 [#00125747]
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Dude, take it down. I'll be getting funny looks from people
in the office. This is conservative england my friend.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:17 [#00125751]
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perhaps they like this one better?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 13:21 [#00125755]
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I just found out some weird stuff about the Jehovah's
beliefs at religioustolerance.org I'm ready to take them on
when they call back. Should be fun! I may record the
conversation I think...



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 13:22 [#00125756]
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Cheers Meho. I want to stay on this messageboard. There's
always people snooping at my computer screen.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 13:24 [#00125759]
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I've just tried to get a picture up but couldn't. I'm
useless with computers. Can anyone take the time to type out
some step by step instructions?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:26 [#00125761]
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It's so easy even a bumbfuck like me is able to do it:
1. click on Edit your account
2. type your password in (but don't press enter)
3. click browse, next to this slot for picture.
4. pick a picture from your computer (or web)
5. click done


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 13:28 [#00125762]
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Firstly have you got a picture of yourself ready? I.E. a
scanned image or a picture of yourself of the web? Make sur
eit's not bigger than 100kb.

If so, go to "edit your account" in the "Nice to see you
Jonesy." Box in the top left corner.

Click the "browse" button to the right of "Upload a picture
(GIF or JPG, max size: 100 kbyte"

Select the file you want as your picture from the window
that pops up..

Then enter your password in your user details (you need to
do this to alter your account) then press "Done" at the
bottom of the screen.

Hopefully your pic should now work.



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:31 [#00125763]
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er... I put it in less words, but basicly, you should do it
easy as pie now.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 13:32 [#00125764]
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Thanx guys. I've arrived


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 13:34 [#00125765]
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Sorry, you must have put yours up as I was typing my "idiot
proof" one :)

Jonesy: Is that really you?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:35 [#00125766]
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ALRIGHT!!! We almost got fooled by your tough leftwing
discourse. While all this time we were talking to this nice
girl.


 

offline awt from kristianstad (Sweden) on 2002-03-14 13:35 [#00125767]
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well home in sweden we got allots of American christians
running knocking on my door about 1time a wheek, I fucking
hate them.. Religion is for people with a lack of brain and
hope. fuckthem


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 13:37 [#00125770]
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I am none other than Rebecca Ritters. You may know me as
Hannah from Neighbours.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 13:38 [#00125771]
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We had a discussion in my house just now about this and it
seems the main reason people hate "Christians" is that
Jehovahs and Mormons knock on their door all the time and
piss them off. They are NOT christians. They have fucked up
beliefs. Ignore them.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:43 [#00125774]
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I think I'll stick with this pic. At least for the time
being. I love bondage.

Well, saying that all religion is for people with a lack of
brain and hope is a little harsh I'd say. I used to think so
too, but not all religions are like christianity. And not
all christians are the same as Ceri said... I can not follow
any religion but I can not follow this materialist atheism
either. I need to continue questioning, not subscribe to
answers.


 

offline awt from kristianstad (Sweden) on 2002-03-14 13:44 [#00125775]
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Well those americans had traveled to sweden And now theyre
working with the swedish church.
I Now that there are many christians who are just regular
peoples but the real fanatic ones are so pathetic. I had a
girlfriend wich had a christian mom and when I went into
there hous and didnt take off my hat she said to her
doughter - You new boyfriend doesnt have christian parents I
see.
- Well he cant come with us to church tomorow thats for
sure.
- no he needs a little disipline.

They said that while i where in the bathroom and they didnt
think I heard them.. Thats fucktup Right?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:47 [#00125778]
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awt: yeah, that's shit. But that does not mean that
christianity as a whole is crap. There however, other
reasons why christianity as a whole is crap.


 

offline awt from kristianstad (Sweden) on 2002-03-14 13:53 [#00125782]
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hmm I know its good for peoples to belive. But the fanatic
part is truly sick.
So are all other religions to.
As we all know the bible people read today isnt the same as
the firts version of the bible.
So the humans has been making changes for their own
comfortability.
By the way did you know that the earlier versions of the
bible is about 10times more violent that the
korahn(spells?)

well i belive in my toilet Per Olof Göranson.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 13:55 [#00125783]
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Those are common theories. But not that I care. I have
problems with christianity on a more basic (fundamental I
should say) level.


 

offline awt from kristianstad (Sweden) on 2002-03-14 13:59 [#00125786]
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ok, (what am I talking about, I dont like anyone, maby mom)

Well I wish the religios peoples would leave my fuffen door
alone. Im going to grab som coffe now. Its been a plesure
talking to you.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 14:04 [#00125791]
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Cheers


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 14:12 [#00125793]
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korahn(spells?) = I think it's Qu'ran
but there are a couple of acceptable spellings.

I just found out that many religious scholars think that the
Jehovah's version of the bible intentionally mis-interprets
the original hebrewic texts so it fits more with their
beliefs as awt said.

I think the people like your ex's mum really paint a ba d
picture. There was this guy who stopped me at a train
station and asked if I'd go to his church, I went once and
was appalled, they were Jehovahs and were all wearing really
smart suits. Although they seemed friendly enough they were
giving me funny looks because I was wearing a t-shirt, jeans
and a leather jacket. I don't recall Jesus ever being
described as a "snappy dresser"...



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-14 14:16 [#00125795]
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Nice story... I don't go to church... Imagine me showing up
like this...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 14:23 [#00125799]
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he he :)


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 14:25 [#00125800]
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Religion is the opium of the people


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 14:29 [#00125806]
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"then ninja tunes is the marijuana for the lunatic fringe"
Xen Cuts booklet.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-14 16:54 [#00125964]
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Xen Cuts is class. I only had a taped copy but will have to
get the CDs. Saul Williams' Twice the First Time is amazing


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 17:14 [#00125990]
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"And I'm like, shu-clack-clack, get me the fuck off this
track " Great song.


 


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