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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 02:54 [#02027029]
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I just found the Korg MS-20 Legacy controller online @ around €110.
Should i buy it? It doesnt come software in the package, but it such software easy to "get"?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 02:55 [#02027030]
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hangover typing at it's best
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 02:56 [#02027031]
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this article says i'll get an overall 92% of the original sound
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 03:08 [#02027032]
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also found an original TR-707 at same price...
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2007-01-06 04:34 [#02027055]
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Sounds good to me, but if youre buying it for use with the software then make sure you can get the software first!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 04:40 [#02027056]
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The software isn't hard to "obtain", but I have no experience of using "less than legitimate" legacy s/w with the controller. There's a (slight) chance that the controller might not work with the s/w. The reason I think this is that it sounds like it's not just some standard midi controller made to look like the ms-20 with the patch bay bit tacked one. From a review of it,
"Don't you just love the English language? It has words such as 'cute' and 'unbearably' which, when combined correctly, let me tell you that the MS20 hardware controller is almost unbearably cute. Unfortunately, it's also very specific in its role as an MS20 hardware controller. Sure, you can plug it into the host computer using a USB cable, and use its velocity-sensitive mini-keyboard to play the Wavestation. But while the mod wheel will carry out its appropriate task, none of the knobs or patch-points are active, not even the master volume control. So we'll say no more about it until next month."
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 04:45 [#02027057]
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i bought the whole legacy collection when it was so awfully cheap (600 zloty so about 150 dollars i guess) and it's really worth it.
actually from the 3 programs that come with this package i have used the ms-20 very little because it rather doesn't fit the type of music i make.
the controller it self is great because of a few reasons - it's small, the keyboard is velocity sensitive (but those are the "mini keys" from the micro series so watch out if you have thick fingers) and it's built very well. in fact, because it's midi you can actually bind the pots to other programs if you find something decent with a similar layout.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 04:51 [#02027059]
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Ah, so it is standard midi, contrary to the review I quoted? Does that mean the knobs in the wavestation (software) can't recieve midi data then?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 04:51 [#02027060]
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well...I feel it might be to much hassle to get my hands on a "legal" version of the software.
Maybe I should go for the TR-707 instead - I like the fact that it has a matrix display
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 04:52 [#02027062]
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you know - actually i never tried it ! i don't have the software here in stettin but i could ask my friend to check if it;s working. i left the controller at his place before moving
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 04:57 [#02027064]
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i think this review should answer all of your questions:
part 1 part 2 part 3
3 parts and so long you shouldn't have any more questions afterwards.
and learn to search for answer on the soundonsound.com site :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 05:03 [#02027065]
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I've just checked and although I can't do right click, learn like the polysix/ms20, I can assign the parameters of the wavestation to be controlled by a sequencer. I can't check with an actual midi controller as I've not got mine set up at the moment, but it would suggest it's possible. This would also suggest that whilst it doesn't work with the default mappings, it would almost certainly (provided it does indeed work on midi) be possible to configure the midi sends of the controller for this. Junktion, I know you use floops, so you could probably rig up some sort of fruity dashboard to interpret the knob movements of the ms-20 controller for the wavestation if you wanted.
Sadist, just for clarity, is it using the controller with the wavestation or other (non korg legacy) programs you've not checked?
As an aside, I love the polysix, but hardly use the ms-20 or wavestation.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 05:07 [#02027067]
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i have just checked it with the original ms20 software. I HAVEN"T USED IT WITH OTHER SOFTWARE AT ALL. just to make that sure before i spread false information around :P
in fact i never tried because of the simple fact that every other software has a completely different layout so that would be uncomfortable. i mean of you have 3 oscilators then the whole thing is getting unuseful.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 05:08 [#02027068]
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it should be somewhere in the review i posted - a bit to lazy to search it on my own.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 05:31 [#02027075]
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on topic: so MS-20 legacy or TR-707?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 05:55 [#02027084]
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off topic: it's 13.55 - should i eat breakfast at all today or already dinner?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 06:01 [#02027087]
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I'd go for a fry up as breakfast/dinner combined, then have something light like soup in the evening.
Junktion: I'd go for the TR-707 personally.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-06 06:16 [#02027089]
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I have one, it's great, the MS-20s filter is fantastic and sounds much like the original. I use it as an RTAS plugin in Protools.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 06:21 [#02027091]
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sigh
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2007-01-06 06:43 [#02027097]
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Depends if you are a hardware or software kind of music-maker. drum machines are fun but they dont provide much that you cant do with samples if you are happy to do it on your computer. But I wouldnt want to buy the legacy thing unless I was more clear on what it can do, so read that review sadist posted I guess...
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2007-01-06 08:47 [#02027147]
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oh man.... very very sweet synth! I've always wanted one of those.
you guys all of you who own one. sweet deal 100%.
i'll have to start trolling eBay and looking for one again. reading this thread and those reviews is giving me the bug for one again....
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-06 08:55 [#02027152]
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The Legacy controller is great, but you'll get the full force with it with the software.
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2007-01-06 09:29 [#02027191]
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yeah it would definitely be all about using the software. Although my resolution for 2007 is to learn and better understand reaktor (in the software department)
but on impulse shopping alone... i would much rather go with the legacy stuff... it sounds stellar and I'm more then familiar with alot of those synths in the real.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-01-06 09:51 [#02027209]
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If you have the fry up and soup in the evening, try to squeeze in a serving of fruit and a serving of vegetables because it's good for your colon.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 12:20 [#02027325]
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i'm going for the TR-707 cuz I like cuddling up in a corner with my headphones, so this would be more like it...I'm so tired of software and headache
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-06 12:43 [#02027329]
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a 707 on it's own with headphones soon gets boring. Fair enough if it's daisy linked with a 808 & 303 tho
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 12:48 [#02027330]
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I already have a MC-303 - it's has emulation for the whole bunch of roland products, but no matrix...I feel like programming in the blind
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