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Korg MS-20 Legacy - yay or nay?
 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 02:54 [#02027029]
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I just found the Korg MS-20 Legacy controller online @
around €110.
Should i buy it?
It doesnt come software in the package, but it such software
easy to "get"?


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 02:55 [#02027030]
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hangover typing at it's best


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 02:56 [#02027031]
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this article says i'll get an overall 92% of the
original sound


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 03:08 [#02027032]
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also found an original TR-707 at same price...


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2007-01-06 04:34 [#02027055]
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Sounds good to me, but if youre buying it for use with the
software then make sure you can get the software first!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 04:40 [#02027056]
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The software isn't hard to "obtain", but I have no
experience of using "less than legitimate" legacy s/w with
the controller. There's a (slight) chance that the
controller might not work with the s/w. The reason I think
this is that it sounds like it's not just some standard midi
controller made to look like the ms-20 with the patch bay
bit tacked one. From a review of it,

"Don't you just love the English language? It has words
such as 'cute' and 'unbearably' which, when combined
correctly, let me tell you that the MS20 hardware controller
is almost unbearably cute. Unfortunately, it's also very
specific in its role as an MS20 hardware controller. Sure,
you can plug it into the host computer using a USB cable,
and use its velocity-sensitive mini-keyboard to play the
Wavestation. But while the mod wheel will carry out its
appropriate task, none of the knobs or patch-points are
active, not even the master volume control. So we'll say no
more about it until next month."



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 04:45 [#02027057]
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i bought the whole legacy collection when it was so awfully
cheap (600 zloty so about 150 dollars i guess) and it's
really worth it.

actually from the 3 programs that come with this package i
have used the ms-20 very little because it rather doesn't
fit the type of music i make.

the controller it self is great because of a few reasons -
it's small, the keyboard is velocity sensitive (but those
are the "mini keys" from the micro series so watch out if
you have thick fingers) and it's built very well. in fact,
because it's midi you can actually bind the pots to other
programs if you find something decent with a similar layout.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 04:51 [#02027059]
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Ah, so it is standard midi, contrary to the review I quoted?
Does that mean the knobs in the wavestation (software) can't
recieve midi data then?


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 04:51 [#02027060]
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well...I feel it might be to much hassle to get my hands on
a "legal" version of the software.

Maybe I should go for the TR-707 instead - I like the fact
that it has a matrix display


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 04:52 [#02027062]
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you know - actually i never tried it ! i don't have the
software here in stettin but i could ask my friend to check
if it;s working. i left the controller at his place before
moving


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 04:57 [#02027064]
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i think this review should answer all of your questions:

part 1
part 2
part 3

3 parts and so long you shouldn't have any more questions
afterwards.

and learn to search for answer on the soundonsound.com site
:D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 05:03 [#02027065]
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I've just checked and although I can't do right click, learn
like the polysix/ms20, I can assign the parameters of the
wavestation to be controlled by a sequencer. I can't check
with an actual midi controller as I've not got mine set up
at the moment, but it would suggest it's possible. This
would also suggest that whilst it doesn't work with the
default mappings, it would almost certainly (provided it
does indeed work on midi) be possible to configure the midi
sends of the controller for this. Junktion, I know you use
floops, so you could probably rig up some sort of fruity
dashboard to interpret the knob movements of the ms-20
controller for the wavestation if you wanted.

Sadist, just for clarity, is it using the controller with
the wavestation or other (non korg legacy) programs you've
not checked?

As an aside, I love the polysix, but hardly use the ms-20 or
wavestation.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 05:07 [#02027067]
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i have just checked it with the original ms20 software. I
HAVEN"T USED IT WITH OTHER SOFTWARE AT ALL. just to make
that sure before i spread false information around :P

in fact i never tried because of the simple fact that every
other software has a completely different layout so that
would be uncomfortable. i mean of you have 3 oscilators then
the whole thing is getting unuseful.



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 05:08 [#02027068]
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it should be somewhere in the review i posted - a bit to
lazy to search it on my own.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 05:31 [#02027075]
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on topic: so MS-20 legacy or TR-707?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-06 05:55 [#02027084]
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off topic: it's 13.55 - should i eat breakfast at all today
or already dinner?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-06 06:01 [#02027087]
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I'd go for a fry up as breakfast/dinner combined, then have
something light like soup in the evening.

Junktion:
I'd go for the TR-707 personally.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-06 06:16 [#02027089]
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I have one, it's great, the MS-20s filter is fantastic and
sounds much like the original. I use it as an RTAS plugin in
Protools.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 06:21 [#02027091]
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sigh


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2007-01-06 06:43 [#02027097]
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Depends if you are a hardware or software kind of
music-maker. drum machines are fun but they dont provide
much that you cant do with samples if you are happy to do it
on your computer. But I wouldnt want to buy the legacy thing
unless I was more clear on what it can do, so read that
review sadist posted I guess...


 

offline vveerrgg from life (Canada) on 2007-01-06 08:47 [#02027147]
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oh man.... very very sweet synth! I've always wanted one
of those.

you guys all of you who own one. sweet deal 100%.

i'll have to start trolling eBay and looking for one again.
reading this thread and those reviews is giving me the bug
for one again....


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-06 08:55 [#02027152]
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The Legacy controller is great, but you'll get the full
force with it with the software.


 

offline vveerrgg from life (Canada) on 2007-01-06 09:29 [#02027191]
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yeah it would definitely be all about using the software.
Although my resolution for 2007 is to learn and better
understand reaktor (in the software department)

but on impulse shopping alone... i would much rather go with
the legacy stuff... it sounds stellar and I'm more then
familiar with alot of those synths in the real.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2007-01-06 09:51 [#02027209]
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If you have the fry up and soup in the evening, try to
squeeze in a serving of fruit and a serving of vegetables
because it's good for your colon.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 12:20 [#02027325]
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i'm going for the TR-707 cuz I like cuddling up in a corner
with my headphones, so this would be more like it...I'm so
tired of software and headache


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-06 12:43 [#02027329]
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a 707 on it's own with headphones soon gets boring. Fair
enough if it's daisy linked with a 808 & 303 tho


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2007-01-06 12:48 [#02027330]
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I already have a MC-303 - it's has emulation for the whole
bunch of roland products, but no matrix...I feel like
programming in the blind


 


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