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hexagonaldope
on 2002-03-13 21:21 [#00124935]
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out soon!
http://www.propellerheads.se/
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hexagonaldope
on 2002-03-13 21:46 [#00124994]
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ahem... *coughs*
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-13 21:49 [#00125003]
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bless ya
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:04 [#00125035]
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is reason free?
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Dialect Falx
from New Bern (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:05 [#00125037]
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Haha.
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:07 [#00125041]
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well is it?!
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-13 22:07 [#00125042]
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I hate the two CD thingy, makes piracy a right bugger.
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:08 [#00125045]
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*ahem* IS REASON FREE?!
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Dialect Falx
from New Bern (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:08 [#00125046]
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Think about it.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-03-13 22:08 [#00125047]
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NO IT'S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:09 [#00125049]
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THANK YOU
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-03-13 22:10 [#00125052]
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YOURE WELCOME
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Dialect Falx
from New Bern (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:11 [#00125054]
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Bleh. Its not hard to look at the site that was posted and go find out for yourself. And think to yourself...would a piece of software like Reason be free?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-13 22:12 [#00125055]
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Looks very yummy - still no full vst support :(
But yeah .. have played around with the reason 1.1 demo a fair bit - shame about the 20minute limit .. and yeah .. whoever suggested routing the Redrum via the synths !! too true .. some wonderful results .. !!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-13 22:13 [#00125059]
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should really make it vst compatible .. it seems stupid for them to try and patch up the sequencer component if there are already established ones out there (oh .. is proppellerheads still owned by steinberg!! --)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-03-14 08:21 [#00125536]
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I just had my first go at a fully cracked version of 1.0 today, and had a jolly time at it. Appearantly, you can use reason as a VST type instrument in cubase, along with your other VST's. So even tho it doesn't have support... its compatible.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 08:23 [#00125537]
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i prefer non-linear music systems.....
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2002-03-14 09:36 [#00125599]
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Where can I get that fucking reason crack. You know, the one that makes reason not asking for CD 2 anymore. I've searched all over Kazaa and all those cracks are wrong or contain a virus
Suggestions??????
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 10:29 [#00125633]
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hmmm.... the second cd is the soundbank.... i downloaded it @ morpheus
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-14 10:46 [#00125641]
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Korben Dallas: That's a very good point, Reason should be a VST host and external device sequencer. Otherwise it's beaten by the competition.
Taxidermist: That's almost true, Reason can be "Rewire"d through Cubase VST. Which basicly means it is synced and the outputs are routed to Cubase's mixer.
To run the cracked Reason: You only need the +/- 17 MB rip from the first CD. From the second CD you need the big "Factory Sound Bank.rfl" file. Burn that to a CD labeled "SOUNDCD" and let it be copied to your harddisk during installation. There are keygenerators for the password and there's a timelimit crack for the demo. But you need the "Factory Sound Bank.rfl" file to run it properly.
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hexagonaldope
on 2002-03-14 13:07 [#00125739]
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a VST type of unit would be nice, but theyd have rewrite the reason audio engine, because it would have to be vst based. they could do that, but then it would slow everthing up. Most of the people who use vst use it just for fun, and often on low powered machines. i think they are aiming at a different market.
I love reason in spite of its negative points, i can do stuff with it in miutes that used to take hours before. My previous setup was an atari computer, 2 MS-20s, 2 VCS3s, arp 2600 with cv sequencer kenton midi-cv and various roland synths, drum machines and an Emulator I.
you might scoff, but i prefer using reason to all that gear
Lucy
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 13:11 [#00125743]
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so d'you see a difference ? i just use VST for effect routing in real time. Cubase is good for bouncing, cuz you can make it offline.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-14 14:31 [#00125808]
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"That's almost true, Reason can be "Rewire"d through Cubase VST. Which basicly means it is synced and the
outputs are routed to Cubase's mixer. "
You can actually record the Reason instruments MIDI data directly into the Cubase arrange page, so it really is exactly like a VSTi.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 14:33 [#00125812]
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Re-Birth is all you need! :)
I think I'll try reason again, I deleted it before because I couldn't use it. Time for another go...
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-14 14:59 [#00125832]
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You mean you can sequence Reason stuff with Cubase? Cool, I've never tried that before... I'm going to check that out. Thanks.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-14 15:08 [#00125837]
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Just assign a midi track in cubase to a Reason instrument and plug the reason midi cable into the same instrument from within reason, then go abck to cubase, hit record...and all your midi data shows up in cubase playing the reason instrument. You dont even need the reason sequencer.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:13 [#00125842]
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you don't even need reason, it's to linear, sadly.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-14 15:17 [#00125844]
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All you really need are bongos.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:20 [#00125846]
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what you need is fantasy, creativity, good ears and a hard believe.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-14 15:21 [#00125847]
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deep man
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:24 [#00125849]
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i dunno exactly how to explain...but, i can't imagine how to produce music only with a computer ? i mean, where's the experimental and free feeling ?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-14 15:24 [#00125850]
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map: What do you mean by "linear"?
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:25 [#00125851]
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by the way ....
http://www.tweakheadz.com/sampling_software.html
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:26 [#00125852]
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The conclusion, my friendly tweaks, is inescapable. The hardware sampler is not dead. The soft sampler has simply taken away some of its more mundane uses, like making synth noises, drums, hits and vocal stabs and all the other "conventional" uses above. The soft sampler in essence has "freed" the hardware sampler to take on more creative roles allowing for what samplers do best, the creative manipulation of sounds, sequences, effects, loops and whole songs in a non-linear arrangement perspective.
May you keep your hardware hot, fired, and ready to take you to new dimensions of musical thinking
copied
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-14 15:30 [#00125854]
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sounds like a quote from someone who is bitter they paid $2000 for an AKAI 3000. Check out Kyma, money far better spent than on a hardware sampler.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:36 [#00125862]
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for such programs, you'll need DSP cards and a mac, that would be expensive...
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-14 15:41 [#00125867]
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indeed it is.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:41 [#00125869]
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i like my s2000 with 8 outputs, and he gives more cool noises and filter effects than a software sampler. computers are good for mastering...
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-14 15:45 [#00125872]
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This is the most retarded conversation ive ever had. Hardware and software are both great, whatever you have and you like, use it, all that matters is the music.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 15:47 [#00125873]
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so true, i think, the best soultion is, to use both elements, there are no rules. software things are very good for be remtoing with a midi controller, i like to control Virsyn over 24 potis, every effect and so on...
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-14 15:58 [#00125885]
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LOL
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 16:00 [#00125888]
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my english sucks i know :P
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hexagonaldope
on 2002-03-14 16:02 [#00125892]
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akai sampler = compter in a different shaped box with less buttons
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 16:03 [#00125893]
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reason = a all in one virtual studio, controlled with a mouse and 2 knobs.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 16:07 [#00125902]
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but i like knob music :)
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 16:12 [#00125919]
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a mouse and two buttons i mean. *outch*
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hexagonaldope
on 2002-03-14 16:27 [#00125939]
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ive got two peavey 16 fader controllers, and a midi keyboard with 20 knobs on. i can control any element in reason like that. non linear music is so 70's =) ;)
Love Lucy
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 16:31 [#00125943]
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so you can't live without hardware too, right ? non-linear is non-static, so i have never-be-the-same rhythms and beats :)
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hexagonaldope
on 2002-03-14 16:35 [#00125948]
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mouse only = unexpressive
but i still do tracks just on my 'puter with amouse! its fun whichever way you do it
;o)
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 17:37 [#00126011]
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allright an old rearranged reason track:
http://www.designworks.ch/daftnoize/zik/daftN0!ze_-_dK9_-_r obespierre_902_EP_-_04_-_fuckin'_with_the_sunshine_in_my_br ain.mp3
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