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why do nerds/geeks/dorks appreciate aphex twin? |
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You need to search for the answer within yourself. |
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last i remember nerds/geeks/dorks invented eletronic music |
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It's "intelligent" |
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Why they can't |
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why they can't indeed |
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they can, no problem with that. i want to understand why do they chose it. |
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why is everybody calling nerds/geeks/dorks they? |
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who says |
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Why They Can't. |
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Not everybody. I called 'them' You. |
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i am sure that 'me' is included in your 'they' group of people, since i am not you |
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they can. why they do? |
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It's a shame this place is not a refuge for "idm" geeks, actually. There's nowhere to go to discuss the anal intracasies of a drum track in an Autechre track, for example. Hell, it's not even cool to like this damn fucking music here any more. |
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hmmm, i remember the autechre live gig thread consisting mainly of pics. people constantly asked for the music and were disappointed by the short reports on it... as an excuse i would say not everybody here finds it easy to talk about music in details because they havent studied it... even though i constantly made music for 2-3 years i dont know all terms and machines, having worked with jeskola buzz and having two djing friends (not idm though, breakbeats and dancehall) helped me a lot here and im having fun picking up new words to properly talk about music, but the real pleasure comes with listening. and recommending music here works sometimes at least, though i got to admit people are talking a lot bout non-electro in this place... |
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Hell, it's not even cool to like this damn fucking music here any more. I don't even know if anyone's even making it anymore apart from the old guard who are slowly but surely calling it a day and some new pretenders covering already well trodden ground. |
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Is there any genre of music where that isn't happening? At least the retreading of old ground is still producing some enjoyable results in this relatively young form of music. When there's vast armies of horrid sounding rock bands invading the airwaves, I'm quite inclined to be forgiving of any electronic music, derivative or not. |
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"I'm quite inclined to be forgiving of any electronic music, derivative or not." It's that exact way of thinking that nurtures all this crappy music, be it rock, rap, IDM or whatever. |
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You took that comment out of context. It's obviously much more enjoyable to listen to music that doesn't sound like a pale imitation of something else, but attacking "idm" in particular for this seems silly when the problem is far more prominent in other kinds of music. *imo*. |
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It seems in like that in most music to me, I'm not singling out 'IDM'. It's all signifiers and nods to other musicians strictly within their genre. Pointless unless you make a living from it. |
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!!!!!!ALERT!!!!!! That first 'in' shouldn't be there |
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pull me backwards through the birdbox |
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IDM will never die, like Napalm Death style metal or Prog Rock, there'll always be a niche for it, and the vast majority of the audience of each niche are all doubtless practicing the same niche style of music themselves. Look at poor Osilsik, gamely collecting his drumboxes, making the same sounds but none of the music. Look at the local bands here like Deathcock, all growly vocals and shitehawk guitars.. it's like folkart, but rubbish. And, as Jivs says, unless you're making a living out of it, what the fuck are you really doing? |
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Why they can't |
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having some fun? |
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Yes. IDM (or electronic listening music) never recovered from Jungle / Drum n Bass. What was meant to be the future (Electronica) was suddenly superceded by something that sounded 1000 years in the future (DnB), which was far more sexy and appealed to more people. So bad IDMers fell over themselves to reclaim Jungle but with an A.I twist (ARTKORE). Then as quick as night follows day, DnB was about as exciting as yesterday's teatowel, and IDM was left holding its cock, suddenly not quite so clever, having backed the wrong horse. And in true wankers fashion, unable to accept they were wrong, like a lot of people here, instead they stuck to their guns, a la Squarepusher, hoping that if they kept making the same shit for 10 or even, god help us 20 years, people would forget that they weren't artificially intelligent enough to not get fooled by some passing musical fad. |
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heh, luckily I was never into d'n'b and I've never really enjoyed SquarePusha. Not that I'm claiming to be the world's best electronic music producer. I just make the music I like to make; doodling. |
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this thread is a bunch of cock. get out more, all of you. |
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"hmmm, i remember the autechre live gig thread consisting mainly of pics. people constantly asked for the music and were disappointed by the short reports on it..." do you not think for a second that people might go out to have a good time and not to report on every single individual audiable squirt that came out of the autechre cock on stage |
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Got anything to add? |
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like what |
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never mind, that was in response to your order for your "get out more" post. |
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cock |
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I'm not sure there's a need to look at things like that. It's easier to just see it as making what you enjoy to make and listening to what is enjoyable to hear. It's impossible to keep track of what genre is what anyway. By the way, you mentioned sexy music, and I'd like to say that Jimmy Edgar's live set is very sexy. |
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I think anyone citing any of the lesser rans of the increasingly pisspor Warp roster as someone "to check out" over any other thing, at all, just means you have a frighteningly scant exposure to culture. |
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sexy or homo erotic? I'm won't judge you. It's just a bit of fun before i go to bed. |
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There's plenty more IDM ground to be trodden over again IMO. Analord is perhaps the best example of this. What makes things bleak at the moment is the amount of piss poor attempts which leads us to think IDM is flogging a dead horse. |
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its strange because I agree with most of what was said. I think drum and bass is becoming so oversaturated with nonsense and boring rehashing that its extremely hard to appreciate it. Im also finding it hard to appreciate some of the older stuff that I loved a couple of years ago. That being said, when it does click with me, its still one of my favorite styles. Hope that makes sense because I dont think I understand anymore |
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I actually probably agree with this. Most of the music comming from these new Warp artists is fairly dire, including most of Jimmy Edgar's released material. His live shows have been very enjoyable, though, as have Jamie Lidell's. They were two highlighs from Glade for me. If "IDM" and Warp artists in particular were the only things to dribble into my ears, you'd be right to accuse me of having a lack of culture, but they're certainly not. It's just one genre of out of many that I think is enjoyable and still something to offer. |
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*has. |
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Lets settle this once and for all: |
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