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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-21 05:49 [#02020017]
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industrial north of England is not analogous to areas which originate country and western music. I'd say Detroit, Chicago or other working towns would be more in line with that thought process.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-21 06:11 [#02020036]
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I am not talking about all Americans, jeez louise.. as you say Detroit, I could say, if I went mental for a minute and decided Detroit Techno wasn't among the greatest musical forms ever, what if I said "Oh, I just downloaded three tracks by Juan Atkins... cheesy strings, weird production, repetitive, sounds like he's trying to be Chic with C3P0 on bass ... stoopid track titles, DETROIT SUCKS and anyone who likes it must be ill" you would, you know, take issue with that. I'd hope.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-21 06:59 [#02020055]
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yeah, I understand. He wasn't saying England sucks. Anyway, yeah, he was a bit knee jerk reactionary. Anything that people hold dear should be given a proper chance. I think we would all get defensive if some "gimmie an oink invite" person came here and said Aphex sucked. Shutbug, have you heard any of Aphex Twins music?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-21 07:01 [#02020056]
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What is Chile like? How's the wheather? Pretty girls?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-21 07:04 [#02020058]
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Shit weather in the south, shit, it's still raining, it rains for 180 months of the year, I've never been so wet. No wonder I'm miserable. There are pretty girls, a lot of chunkers mind, but hey.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-21 07:17 [#02020070]
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I always get depressed if I listen to too much JD though, it's really weird.
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shutbug
from Near NYC (United States) on 2006-12-21 07:39 [#02020088]
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@bogala No I haven't, but I'm not bashing it either. I'm not even judging it. Just because you mention it I'll give it a try. I'm very open minded. Any suggestions what I should listen to first?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-21 09:18 [#02020142]
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afx loops
listen to those. Just click them. Analord is his latest but thats not on there.
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zero-cool
on 2007-03-06 05:51 [#02058758]
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you and anyone else who disses and shows no respect for Joy Division can suck the juice from a rotten nuns cunt!
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-03-06 07:14 [#02058777]
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Wow, this is a funny thread...
Joy Division are amazing. Closer is just one of the most haunting albums i have ever heard.
All i wanted to say.
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zero-cool
on 2007-03-06 07:15 [#02058778]
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agreed
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-03-06 07:18 [#02058779]
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I still find it hard to believe that people won't let other people have opinions without getting shirty.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-06 07:27 [#02058780]
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tree fye foh won too fye GOH
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-03-06 07:46 [#02058785]
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can someone explain to me why this is enjoyable to listen
to?
yes - it's because they have awesome beats
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xf
from Australia on 2007-03-06 07:51 [#02058786]
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"i just started downloading "closer" and listened to the first 3 tracks. god damn this is horrible."
how the fuck can somebody, who i assume, is into experimental electronica, think they can judge an album AT ALL after listening to only three tracks on an album once?
i'm fucking baffled.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2007-03-06 08:09 [#02058792]
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i agree, and i think thats what is annoying most people in this thread.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-03-06 09:13 [#02058844]
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this thread is another perfect example of why dog_belch is a fucking loser...
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2007-03-06 09:50 [#02058866]
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I only like two or three of their albums, Closer, Unknown Pleasures and Substance.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-06 10:43 [#02058889]
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Seeing as they only did two albums proper before the singer commited suicide, both of which you've included, I think that's not a bad average.
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7Pd
from britney's upskirt vagina on 2007-03-06 11:09 [#02058906]
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i just skimmed through the first 3 posts of this thread lol wtf is this shit
what is all the fuss about?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-03-06 16:22 [#02059042]
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you might be too young too guess it, lol
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-03-06 16:24 [#02059043]
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Birthdate 1973-01-30
wait, but if not too young, then not involved enough !
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mrgypsum
on 2007-03-06 19:00 [#02059102]
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if he likes 2 or 3 out of their 2 proper albums, he likes 100% - 150% of their proper output, thats definetly a pretty good ave.
the bottom line is joy division is great - they are the link between the 70's and 80's and it wasnt just closer or unknown pleasures it was their sound - all of their stuff ushered in a new sound for music - just look at the decade that came after them, the 80's - most of the popular stuff / rock music that came out in the 80's owes its sound to joy division -that is all.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2007-03-06 21:00 [#02059131]
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Damn you. I was trying to lure people into buying ALL (both) of their albums.
The tracks I have in my current take-the-bus-to-the-job-rotation:
A means to an end Discoveries Twenty four hours Passover Love will tear us apart Day of the lords She's lost control ..and some New Order tracks too.
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rad smiles
on 2007-03-06 21:30 [#02059135]
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guess what? joy division are still dumb.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-07 00:20 [#02059161]
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Anyone know when the film's out?
Anyone who takes a dislike to JD: Listen to Atmosphere, that will change your mind completely.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-07 00:26 [#02059163]
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I really like 'The eternal'. but its strictly for special occasions only
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-07 00:32 [#02059164]
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just listened to it then. that was so depressing.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-08-23 21:24 [#02113739]
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Sorry, mimi, if I was rude to you in this thread. I apologize.
Joy Division are still the bee's knees.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2007-08-24 01:20 [#02113757]
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while i am definitely a fan of lots of those early singles, and a fair amount of Unknown Pleasures, i have to say that i can empathize with the opinion that Closer sounds like shit. production-wise, to me, it sounds like shit. i don't want to dismiss it because enough people love it that i want to believe that i will come around to it eventually, and furthermore, i don't think i have given some of the songs on the back end the chance that they deserve. but that would be mostly because i find it impossible to sit through the first half.
anyhow, maybe i will try again tomorrow just to respect all the sanctimoniousness in this thread. i want to like it, after all. always have.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-24 03:09 [#02113773]
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Control's coming out soon.
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Ron242
from Enschede (Netherlands, The) on 2007-08-25 15:58 [#02114458]
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While Unkown Pleasures was finished when it was pressed Closer wasn't. It was the first CD i bought and the shopowner said it was a 'bad' record. I showed the same reaction as others in this thread e.g. how can you say that? etc. But, years later i was informed that this album was NOT finished when it was released. The reason is obvious. Still i think it is a great album, but you have to understand the circumstances under which this was released. Something to do with ice.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-25 16:01 [#02114460]
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really? wow.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-25 16:05 [#02114462]
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haha thanks.
no I can see why you'd be pissed off. it wouldn't be my place to start crying over the death of Curtis when I wasn't alive while JD were going. it's a bit, well, I dunno, just odd.
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hexane
on 2007-08-25 16:16 [#02114465]
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-25 16:22 [#02114467]
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One of the view bands that I own on both vinyl and CD. I was given some second hand heavy duty russian pressings when I was a young lad that have some blokeskis name printed all over them and they sound amazing. Even after being played on my piece of shit ancient record player for 10 years they still sound better than the digital masters. I love the sound of this band.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-12-01 05:09 [#02149181]
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the way keyboard sounds in "decades" is one of the best things in music
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-12-01 06:25 [#02149220]
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your attitude is perfect
i mean that honestly
as much as i know there's been altercations between us in the past, there is one thing - i do respect you
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2007-12-01 08:22 [#02149277]
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well its magic
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-01 08:42 [#02149294]
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i re-read this shit and laughed all over again. thanks for the memories.
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