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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 09:44 [#02019183]
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i'm getting a macbook real soon and i'm planning on turning it into a portable studio/dj tool, so i'm looking for an interface that
#1: sounds great #2: have atleast two pairs of output #3: affordable #4: sexy
i was looking at a miglia harmonyaudio, but the minijacks put me off
i already have an m-audio firewire410, but i expect he shut down computer before disconnecting bit to be a bit of a hassle for when i want to change beetwen imac and macbook
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2006-12-19 09:48 [#02019185]
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Techno-stars and super-DJ's use MacBook Pro. Wannabees, and people playing "på lokalet" use MacBook.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-19 09:53 [#02019188]
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I haven't tried it, but this looks like it could be good.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 09:54 [#02019189]
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which segment use Dells then?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2006-12-19 09:57 [#02019190]
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Wankers and rockers
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 09:57 [#02019191]
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that one covers atleast #2 and #4 but it's a bit too exspensive at the moment
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-19 10:21 [#02019208]
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what price range were you thinking?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-12-19 10:25 [#02019212]
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my macbook (and 30 gig ipod) is coming within the next six days :D:D:D
and pro is totally unnecessary for music, what do you really need a good video card for?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-19 10:28 [#02019215]
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I don't know how macbooks are built, but can you use those weird cards for laptops? the ones you stick into the side?
if so, check out the e-mu cards.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 10:28 [#02019216]
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2000NOK ish
looking at that NI Kontrol thinge and it might be exactly what i want
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 10:29 [#02019218]
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no pcmcia slots on the macbooks
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-12-19 10:41 [#02019228]
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i reccomend m-audio's firewire solo,
i dont think i will need another card, all my gear goes into my mixer and then into my audio interface then to my pc thru firewire
link has a mic preamp, two 1/4 outs, three 1/4 ins, spdif in, spdif out, 1/4 out (i use this one forheadphones)
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-12-19 10:50 [#02019233]
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let me know what you decide on, I could really use something more portable and reliable than my current soundcard.
also did you buy x0x?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 10:58 [#02019240]
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i think i could manage a backfeed on which one i finally got. and yes, i did purchase an x0x, it's still en route and i hope it'll reach my doorstep before christmas, but i'm not too sure about that
cyg, if i can, i want to go for something other than m-audio this time, not that i hate my firewire 410, it's nice and things. and that solo thing only has one pair. i could use headphone out for monitoring, but i'd much rather do that on my mixer
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-19 12:06 [#02019274]
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there seems to be plenty of stuff on the market but on the other hand most of it sucks.
there is the esi quatafire that might interest you which gets good notes but there wasn't a new driver released for like 3 years so that is rather a big minus for esi.
the tc connect is still very buggy and very expensive - okay it has the dsp chip on board but i doubt you'll use it.
a very good price option is the new focusrite saffire le (the black one) - 4 in 6 out for 400 euro seems too good and focusrite is making the preamps for protools so the quality is rather top-notch. but it isn't really sexy and it's HUGE so a big minus for portability.
when it comes to sexy you might want to wait for those new echo http://www.echoaudio.com/ firewire interfaces - now tell me these aren't sexy.
the rest is actually rubish for that price. if you want something for years then it's the choice of a rme or motu.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-19 12:10 [#02019281]
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oh i forgot to mention the presonus firebox - compact and steel around so it seems rock solid.
so i guess it's saffire or firebox
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-19 12:12 [#02019284]
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but wouldn't you want to have 4 line inputs? with four you could connect your decks and use djdecks with the finalscratch or serato vinyls.
in that case it would be the saffire then
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 13:55 [#02019301]
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cheers, I'll look into these. what are your thoughts about the NI Audio Kontrol box?
I'm not too interested in the time coded thing just yet, i'm getting pretty good at just using my evolution midicontroller for traktor, so i think I'll stick to that, until i get a reasonably priced korg microkontrol or something
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-19 15:30 [#02019330]
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i have no idea what a microkontrol has to do with final scratch but ok.
the kontrol is to new - never seen it, never used it.
one thing for sure - it has much worse quality then for example the focusrite - just look at the advanced specs.
it has much worse signal to noise ratio and distortion then the focusrite one.
depends on what you expect - if you are an audiophile or you want to use the box for some more professional recording/studio related stuff than i wouldn't take it.
on the other hand if you haven't a proper microphone and studio monitors you probably won't hear any difference at all.
although i have to admit it has a high sexy-factor.
so, bottom line - if you are maybe thinking of making something more with the interface like recording of multiple signals, vocals, you want to do surround mastering go with another interface.
but if you just want to use it for dj'ing purposes take the audio kontrol
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-19 15:34 [#02019333]
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im tempted to get the NI box.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-19 15:38 [#02019335]
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it has nothing to do with final scratch but all to do with me triggering effects and setting loopmarkers on the fly in traktor. but yeah, the specs on the NI-box is pale compared. i will have to do some thinking and see what box i am to desire the most. thanks for taking the time anyhoo - appreciated
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-19 15:50 [#02019340]
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you know what the more i see those pictures of the ni interface the more i want to stick my wee wee into it. those polished edges are so yummy.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-24 02:08 [#02021012]
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i think i'm going to go for the focusrite saffire le, use that on the stationary computron, and use the m-audio for the macbook
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-24 02:15 [#02021014]
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no wait, the firebox is cheaper at playback.com so i'm going for that instead
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-24 09:07 [#02021053]
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think about it TWICE
the firebox has 2 preamps in the front and just 2 line inputs. in the saffire, the two preamps on the front also work as line inputs when switched.
this is very important - if you want to connect 4 line level sources to your pc - the saffire is the only way.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-24 15:58 [#02021130]
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i did and i'm not going to use more than one pair of inputs anyway, atleast not until i've busted the microkontrol.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-12-24 17:05 [#02021146]
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that firebox one looks perfect to me, but I don't exactly understand the deal with line inputs, haven't done much recording at home
PS - MC
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-25 04:33 [#02021219]
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hey, wait
if one of them is stationary, e-mu 1820 is the way to go!
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-12-25 05:26 [#02021225]
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erm, the stationary is an iMac, so i dont think i could squeese it in. but thanks anyhoo
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-25 11:59 [#02021281]
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you see - there are three types of inputs in audio interfaces - instrument, microphone and line-level. everyone of it has another sensitivity, and you cannoct connect all sources to each other.
so - most of the audio interfaces have combo inputs where you can switch them to mic, line or inst. sensitivity. but not all.
so - in the saffire for example - you can connect every source to the front inputs as you wish - in the firebox - only mic or inst. stuff because they don't accept line levels.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-12-25 12:03 [#02021284]
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Aren't instrument and line different names for the same thing? Correct me if I am wrong...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-25 12:12 [#02021292]
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wrong indeed - the input resistance is different. wait searching anywhere for it....
um...
oh got it:
• Mic Gain: +13dB to + 60dB • Line 1&2 Gain: -10dB to +36dB • Instrument Gain: +13dB to +60dB
the gain is different
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-25 12:15 [#02021293]
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this is from the saffire le - in other interfaces there is also a difference between mic and inst. - oh and only mics have phantom power.
okay - there is a way to connect different level sources to each other but you would have to use external mixers or preamps or even solder some new cables.
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