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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-12-10 12:30 [#02015389]
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LAZY_TITLE
Disclaimer: the fact that the prisons featured in this documentary are American bears absolutely no significance. The degrading, aggressive and humiliating treatment of prisoners by prison guards is not the product of their social culture but of their human condition and human reaction to their role of dominance over helpless individuals. See the stanford experiment. *
America is actually a really lovely place. **
*: I'm not being 100% sarcastic here - there is an element of truth to this.
**: Ha! What a crock of shit. My fucking arse it's lovely.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-10 13:09 [#02015407]
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I must get angry about this and argue the toss with teenagers with shit taste in music fans about it.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-10 13:10 [#02015409]
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that just confirms the stanford prison experiment.
have you ever hear about it? quite creepy stuff.
it was actually with americans too but i guess it would have worked with other country's too. i guess.
there was also quite a good movie about it LAZY_TITLE
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-10 13:11 [#02015411]
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You can, probably, excise the word "fans" from that little paddy I threw there.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-10 13:11 [#02015412]
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seriously worth a watch
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-10 13:13 [#02015414]
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it's better than not reacting at all
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-10 13:14 [#02015415]
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another good site about it
Welcome to the Stanford Prison Experiment web site, which features an extensive slide show and information about this classic psychology experiment, including parallels with the abuse of prisoners at ABU GHRAIB. What happens when you put good people in an evil place? Does humanity win over evil, or does evil triumph? These are some of the questions we posed in this dramatic simulation of prison life conducted in the summer of 1971 at Stanford University.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-12-10 13:15 [#02015417]
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i mentioned the stanford prison experiment in my post, had you been bothered to read it.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-12-10 13:15 [#02015418]
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oh sorry i just read the last line of your post again - silly me. maybe someone else might be interested then.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-10 13:18 [#02015420]
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I think I read about that before. guards turn prisoners against eachother by punishing all for bad behavior of 1 etc, and change normal groups to screw up alliances.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-10 13:24 [#02015425]
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Humanity is bad. Oh no!
There.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-12-10 13:27 [#02015427]
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why couldn't you have moved to chile in the 70s and been disappeared before the advent of the internet? it'd have saved us all a lot of grief, especially from that grinning ape tripe you consider musical
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-10 13:27 [#02015428]
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c'mon you can do better! go go kama sutra!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-10 13:29 [#02015430]
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Have you been drinking a lot, are you very cross? Let's all have a big row as we know they're the best times on XLT.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-10 13:31 [#02015434]
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And, to be fair, if I was here in the 70s, I'd be more likely ferrying people's arses out of helicopters, than being on the receiving end.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-12-10 13:35 [#02015439]
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yes i fucking have but i found that last post most amusing so i'm in a quandary as to what to do next.
i think, having vented enough, shutting up would be a good idea.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-10 13:35 [#02015440]
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God, can we ease back on the hostility shit? It's so fucking pointless.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-10 13:38 [#02015443]
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word!
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-10 16:23 [#02015527]
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better than irish prisons
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-10 19:44 [#02015597]
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I'm working on the music to a documentary about how Afghans were tortured, yo. "taxi to the darkside" is the title, very DARK grrr.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-12-10 20:21 [#02015598]
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prison is for bad people
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-12-11 06:50 [#02015804]
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What's the view from your cell like?
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trentee
from Berlin (Germany) on 2006-12-12 16:32 [#02016647]
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talking about prisons...look at the "still works" section
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-13 05:21 [#02016767]
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He's right though, you do have shit taste in music.....
Just kidding, by the way. All I know is that you like Zappa - he's cool. Not too sure about the Wisp thing, but I'll let you off this time.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-13 05:23 [#02016768]
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Downloading the video now though, will have a watch when it's finished. Cheers for the heads up, dude.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-12-13 06:04 [#02016777]
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no problem.. cheers yourself: you're the first person to offer thanks.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-12-13 07:32 [#02016791]
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best sex I ever had was in prison.
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evils
on 2006-12-13 08:12 [#02016802]
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cool film
It's in German which makes it scarier of course
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-12-13 21:30 [#02017048]
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Who gives a fuck about prisoners?
I think we are too light on them as is...
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-12-14 00:45 [#02017100]
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those restraint chairs are fucked up.
quick way to mess up someones head.
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