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Aphex Twin gets this sound on the beginning of the second track of Windowlicker - the "equation" track - that sounds like squishy liquid chrome splashing and being turned inside out. Autechre also uses the same sound on ep7 and lp5. What is it? How do they do it? I suspect it's some kind of Max/MSP FFT trickery. |
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if you're talking about the sound I think you're talking about I once made something like it by a rather random process of timestretching, reversing, distorting and copy / mixpaste just a random sound on my harddrive. I was making a "mock" noise track that was supposed to be a mock autechre track or something I think... the process was very random, but I guess the basics would be "fuck with a sound.. a lot!" and then eventually, like when you're painting with watercolours and you dip your paintbrush in a glass of water in between colours, you always get the same colour, you'll probably get something that sounds like it otherwise I've done something somewhat similar just twisting all knobs and sliding all sliders while holding down as many notes as possible on the synth. one of the sliders controls the cutoff for a lowpass filter, so I guess that could be instrumental in making the "turned inside out" part of the sound. |
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hit the drink hard, then begin fiddling around with max/msp, you're bound to come up with something similar |
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it's some FFS trickery |
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is there a button you can push to make it do |
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yeah it's actually fft trickery - you can achieve something similar with all "noise reduction" stuff. cool edit for example. makes some similar sounds |
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although i just realised that it sounds really muddy |
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this can be done quite easily in max/msp I think. and there are a few vst's that can do stuff like that. |
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not really it but something like that |
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There is a program called Coagula, which can be used to draw shapes which are converted to sound. That will do sounds just like that. The x axis is time. The y axis is frequency. The 'z axis' or colour / intesity (I can't remember) is volume. Try it You can also use it to hide images in tracks, like Vsnares and AFX have done. There is a similar program called metasynth, but I have no comment on this. Never used it. (MAC ONLY) http://www.uisoftware.com/MetaSynth/index.html |
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That sounds like extreme phaser effects, but so does the aphex / ae noise, sort of. Dave_G, thanks, I will have a play with Coagula. |
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o i completely forgot about this - there is even this plugin in fruityloops that let's you make sounds from pics - beepmap. i posted ages ago a thread where i but some pics with "xltronic" in it and posted how to setup winamp 3 (there is this fft type vis plugin) to see it. some small sample from scratch with some nude pic in beepmap. i'll try to make this xlt writings asap. maybe someones interested. |
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there ya go go to preferences in winamp to visualisation tab and choose "nullsoft tiny fullscreen" and the plugin-module "secy scrolling voiceprint at the botton. the launch this mp3 looped |
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should look something like this |
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Haha! Xcellent. Now do one with your FACE. |
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How do you make a sound that decodes into a recognizable image? I tried some in coagula and fl beep map and they just look like noise. |
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Does work? |
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something I made with |
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i just open it up in beepmap normally without changing any parameters. make sure the "length" is ok. should work |
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i think its a mixture of convolution and dynamic delay |
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I'm getting the same thing as elusive. Try megaupload next time. It generally sucks a bit less. |
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yeah, once I read that those effects had been created using MetaSynth (MAC), Coagula would be a similar freeware tool for PC. Coagula generates sounds exactly similar, very good... download: |
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I still think my method is the best mainly because it's fun I'll raise mt hglass in your honour monsieur and then then I'll be gone |
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Only once have I managed to get a sound out of beepmap that doesn't sound like it was done with beepmap. It was a very heavily blurred picture of a pinky white waveform. It sounded quite good. I think as these sort of programs go, beepmap is fairly weak. I had a program a mate wrote a while back (don't know if I still have it) that did it much better. |
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Yeah, you can do it either with Coagula or Audacity's Noise Remover. |
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band pass into low pass into pitch fuck-up into band pass |
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I think some people are mixing up the two different things in the track. I'm guessing that fleetmouse is talking about the bit where the drum loop turns into a big spectral mush which it looks like isnieZot's link looks like it could well do that (although I haven't tried yet). Then there's the bit at the end of the track with the infamous Aphex face, which yeah you could do Coagula. I'm really into the whole spectral manipulation thing and would love to see a program where you could load a wav file spectrally into a paint program and then manipulate it with standard image processing effects. A track flipped upside down would sound well strange with the vocals being pefectly pitch shifted in a 'mirror image' (i.e a vocal line going down would go up) |
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Coagula can make sounds like at the start of the equation track too, i.e "that sounds like squishy liquid chrome splashing and being turned inside out". I'm not confusing it with the face at the end. Infact the whole equation song is littered with coagula-esque sounds. Look at the spectrograph of the beginning and it's pretty obvious. Also playing around with coagula can do the same sort of sound, "spray paint" an exponential curve going down and it will be a reasonable approximation. |
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