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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 05:33 [#02013443]
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I've always fancied one but heard the home vinyl cutters produce inferior vinyl and the records don't last long?
Anyone got one or has experience with one?
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-12-06 05:34 [#02013444]
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do it yourself, punk!
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 05:36 [#02013445]
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That's the general idea!
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-12-06 06:03 [#02013457]
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i dont have one and aint an expert, but i guess home vinyl is probably superior than industrial fordist ones, since its made individualy, with more attention and care.
as for lasting longer, all you need is good raw material.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 06:58 [#02013472]
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the Vestax VRX2000 is actually supposed to produce pretty good results. Havent used one myself but friend of a friendness brings news that its a quality product for the price.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-12-06 07:30 [#02013477]
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Yes, they have much better durability than dub plates too.
I thought it'd be a good sideline for someone like HTFR to buy one and to offer dubplate cutting on vestax plates (you could make it profitable at as little as £15 + £3 P&P as opposed to £25-30 for dubplates). You mail them a CD and payment and within 2 weeks they send your cd back and the cut record.
Sheffield Bleep: Something to be aware of is that you'll still need to have it mastered as if it's for vinyl, or else it won't sound great/might be more prone to skipping. Vinyl mastering is a bit of an artform (allegedly, I've never done it) and whilst you can get away with mastering CDs yourself, vinyl is meant to be a bit trickier. If you're insistant on mastering it yourself, adhere to the following:
*make a cutoff below 20-25 hz
*make a cutoff above 18 khz
*make sure your low frequency is mono (correlation not negative)
*dont use fancy psychoacustic effects. they give you nothing but trouble if you are not experienced
(taken from a dubplate cutting website)
stefano_azevedo: "as for lasting longer, all you need is good raw material."
Dunno if you're talking about something different, but if you mean home cutting, this just isn't true. You could use absolutely top notch "audiophile" dub plates (if such things exist) and the best dubplate cutting machine operated by the best operator in the world, but it'd still last less time than a poor vinyl pressing on 100% recycled vinyl. The vestax things work better because they're harder, thicker and more like plastic than normal dubplates.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-06 08:17 [#02013501]
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Good advice Ceri CJ. Yeah I've read the pitfalls of vinyl mastering etc. The Vestax machine looks great.
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2006-12-06 08:35 [#02013507]
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My advice about cutting vinyl is to be aware of any phasing and repair it!
if you can get your hands on a copy of Samplitude and Sequoia 8.1 and run your tracks through that and repair the phasing, you can roll off the highs and lows just like Ceri JC suggested.
You can also use it to mono a spectrum of the sound frequencies... such as lowend bass frequencies... since they're non directional and any phasing or stereo(ness) will cause it to washout or burnout the cutting head.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE cutting records. I wish I could do it all the time.... I usually take my tunes over to a friends house who does the majority of my mastering. (he has a better system and a fresh set of ears to mine) But on the good projects it's always nice to send stuff to The Exchange, Niltz is a genius!
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