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OK
on 2006-12-04 00:20 [#02012327]
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yeah yeah yeah battle system bla bla how's the story?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-04 03:00 [#02012342]
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Very average. Vaan is a lame ''lead'' character, and I'm not overly concerned about the protagonists' plight. It's pretty cliched and once again there's no really intimidating or hateful villain. Hence why I've been spending so much time on the outskirts of the story, tackling the optional stuff.
See, I like the ''world''. I like the cities, I like the areas, I like the lands, I like the side-stories and the little details of the world... but the main story thread isn't anything special. But I like the gameplay so much more than the old style that it's not a huge deal for me, this game holds a very different appeal for me than FF8 or FF10.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-04 03:06 [#02012346]
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The characters seemingly aren't very well fleshed out either. There's no ''love story'' or anything, for example. There's a couple of characters I like, but they're not deep, they're just... er, cool?
But keep in mind I may be being premature, because even though I've played over 50 hours, I'm not that far into the story at all. There's some plot points I'm interested in, so maybe things get more interesting later.
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OK
on 2006-12-04 14:26 [#02012604]
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Then i wouldn't like it. ff games should be all about characters and story.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-12-04 14:39 [#02012623]
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3/6 was the best
8 was complete shit
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OK
on 2006-12-04 21:12 [#02012794]
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I agree
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-08 09:31 [#02014576]
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Finally beat it this morning after 80 hours (and more to come because my pride necessitates the slaying of the very brutal optional bosses, one of which is supposed to be like a multi-hour war of attrition).
Story is weird... some nice characters and lovely silly melodrama, but the way the story plays out is awkward. You go for many hours where nothing happens except travelling and exploring, which is fun because the game plays well, but it's not good for the narrative. And the sidequests seem to be so independent from the main story thread... I dunno... it's pretty spotty. Near the climax I felt really satisfied by the way it all plays out, and a few things I was confused about clicked, but I think I was only confused about them because of how inconsistent the storytelling was, not because of any sort of depth or mystery.
It has a definite political edge, like FF Tactics, but the way that aspect of it intertwines with the usual ''long epic journey for the mythical whatevers'' isn't all that smooth. As I actually played, I did not feel like I was in the greatly troubled world that the cutscenes portray and describe.
And the main villain was a putz, though he has a cool brother.
Gameplay-wise it's my favorite FF but I think it may be a transitional installment, because there's no way I can go back to that random battle/turn based stuff, no chance, yet there's still some refinements to be made here and there, both in the gameplay and the aventure template. The ''hunt'' thing that I got really addicted to requires a lot of annoying tedious legwork, and they make up the bulk of the sidequests. They hardly tie into the main story at all, feels like I was playing two different quests.
The game takes some cues from Western RPGs, to mixed results... the battle system, of course, and the dungeons are bigger than ever but sometimes feel too big, like those boring randomly generated Elder Scrolls layouts.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-08 09:33 [#02014578]
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Overall, it's like every FF... flashes or brilliance and some glaring flaws. One of the better installments in the series, overall.
Soundtrack just fucking sucks though. I enjoy listening to almost all the older ones, but I don't care to hear this workmanlike wallpaper music ever again.
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OK
on 2006-12-08 12:03 [#02014663]
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ff3/6 has no flaws
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-08 12:12 [#02014669]
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I think FF6 shows its age, it's as unbalanced as the rest of them, and lacks the insane challenges that modern RPGs have (the ones I'm working towards in FF12 right now). It's a cakewalk but it's definitely the least flawed FF.
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optimus prime
on 2006-12-15 20:31 [#02017950]
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just picked it up today. will see how goes.
final fantasy 6 got me into the series when i was a kid. i later tried all the games before 6 but couldn't stand them since their stories were so bloody generic, and the random battles bored me to tears. i enjoyed 7, 8, 9, 10 when i played through them but i strongly doubt i could ever go back to them and enjoy them as much as i did when i was a teenager. anyway, i think my favourite games are 6 (for nostalgia), 7 (for atmosphere) and 8 (for utter weirdness). i enjoyed 10 more than other people have. couldn't stand 10-2 and it was the first final fantasy that i never beat (excluding 1-5). never bothered with 11.
i'll go play some 12 now so i can have something constructive to say.
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optimus prime
on 2006-12-15 23:58 [#02018004]
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holy crap is the voice acting bad. i'm not kidding *at all* when i say that this is the worst voice acting i've ever heard in my life. a lot of the time i don't even know what people are saying because the lines are literally mumbled. there is absolutely no natural flow in the delivery of the lines. the voices themselves sound annoying. i'd like the main characters if the voice actors didn't sound like uneducated american brats. there is not a single instance of decent voice acting to be found. this is just gamebreaking for me and an incredible disappointment. i'll either return the game or give it to some kid with no taste.
shameful.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-16 00:25 [#02018008]
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Oh yeah, the overall voice acting... one of the few things I didn't touch on... and can't really speak for since I had the game muted 99% of the time to listen to music because the soundtrack was so blah. Fran sounded cute but Vaan sounded like he's probably annoying, and the sound quality was jarringly compressed to fit on that one disc.
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edga
on 2006-12-16 07:40 [#02018103]
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the voice acting is decent, though i'd prefer if there wasn't any at all.
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optimus prime
on 2006-12-16 22:58 [#02018408]
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i actually like the soundtrack. it's not exactly great but i like the atmosphere. ah well.
i think i'll do what you did and just listen to music while i play. i'm currently torrenting the soundtracks to my favourite final fantasies for this purpose.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-12-23 04:57 [#02020840]
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now that schools out I can start my marathon of 12, anything I should look out for while playing, sometimes FF games like to hide stuff that you can only get at certain times.
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optimus prime
on 2007-01-01 19:40 [#02025218]
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currently over 25 hours into it.
greatest rpg ever.
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optimus prime
on 2007-01-01 20:04 [#02025220]
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i have no idea how to actually use quickenings (the limit breaks) and can't find any good information on it in the game, in the instruction manual or online. so that's something to look into.
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Feld
from surrey (Canada) on 2007-01-01 22:36 [#02025242]
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ophecks guy pretty much nailed it.
i was mind-numblingly addicted by the leveling up but thats pretty much it...
i remember in that large illusion/snowy/mist area with the spires i wasnt in the mood to think of how to navigate the map, so i just used that as an excuse to run around mindlessly for hours crippling every damn hopeless enemy that my relentless maddog-killa crew would automatically target.
i probably would have done all the side-quests but i rented the game, and when it was due i just felt like getting it over with, which was a fitting end since the anti-climactic final dungeon really topped off the whole tacked on feeling of the plotline...
aah'dno... i tried to get into it...the characters were a little bit charming sometimes...(trevor goodchild's voice especcially!) but the whole affair was primarily impotent. =S
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-01-02 14:29 [#02025571]
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This game didn't leave the same lasting impression on me that FF6, 7 and 8 did, or anywhere near it. Mostly because of the weak soundtrack, lesser story and the less interesting ''world'' (it seemed like it was going to be a better universe than it turned out to be). But it's still a great game and I can't wait to see this gameplay applied again and refined. I was crazy addicted.
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