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for example; ryoji ikeda, carsten nicolai... |
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I like it. Been listening to Dataplex lately. Insen and Vrioon by Alva & Ryuichi is nice too. |
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i like ryoji ikeda, don't know carsten nicolai. |
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i think it was hyakusen who told me to listen to ryoji ikeda once, I liked it a lot but then I never felt like getting anything more... i think i prefer bloated over-produced music anyway |
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get "cyclo", its a collaboration between carsten nicolai and ryoji ikeda ive been listening the shit out of it, i just love how its real raw, has some moderately funky shit, but mostly is just real raw and just unfriendly. real undressed music, dataplex the same.. its displacing. i love music that is displacing but has no real clear intent as to where youre supposed to go, its just sort of like a vehicle.. you can go wherever you want.. |
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would i be wrong to assume that it's very difficult to produce very minimalistic music? |
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I don't think it's "hard to produce" but I think you need good judgement and a modicum of creativity. |
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alva noto & ryuichi sakamoto "vrioon" dan abrams "stream" minimalistic sweden "standard clickmusic" (very hard to find but worth it) mokira "clickhop" (genious" sutekh "periods make sense" (classic must-have) |
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i love such kind of music because it's probably the only music i can listen to when learning - other stuff attracts my mind too much. also - i love to listen to such albums on headphones when i go shoping or just going to the town as sometimes the sounds of the city combine really great with what you hear so you sometimes aren't sure what's recorded and what's not |
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thanks for the reccomendations! other stuff attracts my mind too much. -- i feel the same way. that song "C4" off of cyclo, are those notes? say you played that song for Bach,mozart, or beethoven... how do you think they would regard that kind of music? the sound that comes in at 2:17, do you think they would ever feel roused or emotionally responsive to it? sort of like dial from gantz graf, that shit is funky as hell and well danceable but simultaneously its just sort of alien, all the stuff is raw. kinda like listening to placeholders? |
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matthew dear, farben, jan jelinek, mathew jonson, losoul, Jürgen Paepe, monolake, roman flügel, plastikman |
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I'll keep an eye out for those. Thanks. |
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alva noto - transspray is amazing, fuel for black quartz is a well brutal track |
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oh FUCK YEAH, i love this - is the first track + second supposed to be one? |
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this is what I think of minimal music: this is relevant because there was minimal effort in making this this this this |
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ikeda and nicolai aren't really that minimal. you have lots of producers who create their music based on silence instead of sound. i wouldn't normally listen to that, but i can appreciate it since it's obviously what they want to do. |
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i saw nakamura couple of weeks ago..it was way more minimal than this though. |
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snd travelog for me cheers |
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snd = awesome |
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though i prefer dataplex by a mile :D |
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thanks guys. i never heard of these artists before, now checking them out and looks like some amazing listening adventures are ahead. just read some reviews for ryoji ikeda`s dataplex, probably i`ll start with that. :) |
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jesus god, lord, YES, get dataplex |
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It's probably harder to do a good minimal track than one that has shitloads of melodies and parts all layered on top of each other. You can sort of bluff a good track with loads of elements, when you only have a feew things going on, they have to be perfect. |
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snd live on ae tour went over pretty well. only heard ok |
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i love minimalism. but i expected this topic to read 'what do you think of really me?' sorry cygnus, i thought you were having self esteem issues HAR HAR |
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not a fan of something that would take someone less than two hours to make in Reaktor. really lacks any soul. |
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or maybe that's all it has? potentially anyway |
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i think they intentionally want to avoid soul and feelings..well, at least some of them. not all music needs that to be good, but whether you like it or not that's subjective. |
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i think very little almost nothing |
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well said tolstoyd. |
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i don't really think of minimalistic stuff. I don't the term has a meaning or it's just not interesting trying to create a meaning for the word. |
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I am actually listening to this right now, before I opened this thread. Do you know of any recordings besides the one I have, which is of Chicago? |
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i saw insen live. it was a really interesting performance and some of the songs were heaps good, but i dont think id be all that interested listening to it otherwise. |
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Its cool! I also like minimal art |
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so you went there you didn't tell me did you like the performance? |
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in my opinion, minimal music composed by ikeda (dataplex at least), alva noto and pan sonic is really interesting (concept + sounds). other creations like toshimaru nakamura and other japan artists not well known could be interesting but bothers you easily |
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I quite like it provided that it is done tastefully. Alva noto is my fav. |
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I quite like it |
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I like some of it, but I guess it's more of a case by case type thing with me, more so then other types of music. If it doesn't have a REALLY nice melody or feel I'll probably find it pretty boring. Because minimalist music is so, well, minimalist, it really needs to be strong and almost to the point of amazing to really hold my attention. |
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It's hard to produce good minimalistic music. Normally, you can distract and entertain listeners with loads of DSP trickery and intricate drum programming, but making highly repetative loops that don't get boring in 6 minutes of a track (let alone stand up to repeated listening) is pretty tricky. |
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that was lovely! |
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yes i get your point - i guess that stricte minimal music isn't really meant to be emotional at all. i guess that's the whole spirit in it. it's more about the beauty of a single sound at all. |
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i guess that "vrioon" was rather meant as an experiment combining minimal music with the problably most emotional instrument - the piano. speaking of emotional experiments with minimal - check out the swod "gehen" album - what a wonderful piece. oh and if you want some more danceable minimal albums i recommend: snd "stdio" snd "tender love" geeez 'n' gosh "my life with jesus" oh oh oh ! i know that maybe it doesn't really fit in this topic but i just cannot stop recommending this album all the time: institut fuer feinmotorik "preatorians" these guys (4 of them) are making music only using vinyl-decks but not with vinyl but just putting different things on the slipmat! highly recommended - but be aware it's quite rare and hard to find on the net. 2 samples: pics: |
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oh i actually realised tolstoyed said that before |
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cough cough |
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Just listened to Cyclo. Wow. |
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i'd like to see an installation by ikeda someday. |
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Now listening to Mokira - clickhop. Liking it. |
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BLIR raster post edits is pretty immense, anyone checked it? first track is lush |
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