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offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-10-30 07:29 [#01994916]
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when you catch your boss doing that, its time to change jobs


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 07:31 [#01994919]
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Classic example of "missing the point":

"I find it amusing that coming from a country filled with
people that still havent got the clue that toothbrushes are

our friend, they have the nerve to call anyone any sort of
derogatory name. furthermore, although i am european by
blood, i was born and raised here. and of course i dont
agree with everything i that my country does, i feel it a
privelage to live here. so when some non speaking ass euro
decides he wants to bad mouth my shit, all i can say is you

dont like it, tell cousin mjolenor to stay the fuck out
then. i mean i could see why jealousy is an issue. if all i

had to look at all day were uptight, jacked up toothed,
mangled face having bitches allday, i'd be pretty po'd. or
maybe instead of my luxurious leather stitched high
horsepowered automobile, i had to drive a shoebox with
wheels, that wouldnt make me very happy either.
so if you guys want to talk shit about something as idiotic

a phrase-dont forget not all people can be as uptight as the

brits-, then go right ahead. cause when i leave work today,

in my big gas guzzling luxo, bumping my mega wattage
stereo(you guys do know what that is right? or has
technology over there not gotten as far as figuring out how

to wedge a cd player and speakers into a fucking renault?)
listening to some proem, i'll remember why i could care
less."

Posted by Intruder, 2004.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 07:37 [#01994923]
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I find the name Biggles amusing


 

offline Bill Burroughs from Colombia on 2006-10-30 07:42 [#01994928]
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I chuckled at ecnadniarb's comment: "Most Americans have
difficulty in quantative measurement,
which is why most of them are fat fuckers who can't stand
up
without wheezing. So they have to speak in general terms. "


 

offline Bill Burroughs from Colombia on 2006-10-30 07:45 [#01994934]
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Exactly. And he's showing off about the fact that his car is
a "big gas guzzling luxo" as if most europeans wouldn't take
that as confirmation of his large blubbery selfish cunt
american-ness.


 

offline Bill Burroughs from Colombia on 2006-10-30 07:47 [#01994938]
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Also, don't all americans claim to be "european by
blood," as he says?

Haha, that makes me laugh for a number of reasons.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 07:51 [#01994943]
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Yes, his post certainly breaks down the perception that
(some) Americans are completely devoid of culture, wit or
appreciation of anything that cannot be bought or sold. He
made me completely change my opinion that some are stupid,
materialistic and superficial.

NB: Usual disclaimer. One of my best friends is American and
I'm going to visit for 3 weeks next year. I like many facets
of American life and I know several extremely intelligent
Americans. It's just that some of them seem to actively live
the stereotype and our lad Intruder is one of them.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-30 07:54 [#01994950]
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Brilliant.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 07:55 [#01994953]
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Don't worry recycle. You're one of the "good Americans". You
don't need to be ashamed.


 

offline Bill Burroughs from Colombia on 2006-10-30 08:34 [#01995003]
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The rest of you can bite my arse with your perfect tall
white teeth.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 08:43 [#01995007]
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Ah yes, fileing your incissors flat so you can't chew steak
properly, then rendering yourself impotent with teeth
whitening products. Another charming quality I am oh so
envious of...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 08:45 [#01995012]
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I think that same difference thing is something a logician
made up while drunk and then laughed at until he died


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-30 08:54 [#01995032]
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fucking yanks


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-30 08:55 [#01995035]
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"were he american, i could care less"



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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 09:12 [#01995061]
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Yes. It always struck me as a bizarre saying. I have
never heard (or read) it used correctly, aside from
when someone is correcting the (mis)use of it by someone
else.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 09:20 [#01995066]
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it's probably some logical joke about how a difference is
that one is not the other and not making a difference is
where one and the other is the same, and then if you say
that a difference is a same, you get the same as no
difference... or something. You could probably get some
logician to give you a full p-->q layout of the situation or
something.

other than that it may be that the phrase was being used in
a fully logical sense where you say apples and oranges, bees
and mosquitoes; same difference" or something like that (you
compare the difference of one to the difference of the
other) and then someone somewhere misunderstood the same way
some people I knew used to believe banal was used to refer
to something extraordinary because most situations, when
made explicit, they can seem both silly and normal at the
same time; the phrase "and you use such banal examples as a
cat chasing a mouse" could be seen as being a quite normal
example and a quite silly/out of place example at the same
time to two different people so they'll both have their own
interpretation of the word banal.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 09:44 [#01995076]
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Your instance of the misuse of banal is just ignorance on
the part of the people who think it means extraordinary. At
least, unlike "same difference" it's understandable how the
misuse came about.


 

offline Sano on 2006-10-30 09:46 [#01995077]
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You guys are badass.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-30 09:51 [#01995080]
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yes, that pretty much sums it up


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 09:52 [#01995081]
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no, it's more or less the same; you hear something in some
context then assume it to mean something and you never check
what it actually means.


 

offline xceque on 2006-10-30 09:58 [#01995084]
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From that article:
Let's start with a couple generative formations

Me:
Let's start with a couple OF generative formations.
Motherfucker.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 10:04 [#01995085]
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Well, my point is that with "same difference" it's unclear
exactly how the ignorant people who misuse the term learnt
it in the first place. I doubt they spend a lot of time
kicking about with logicians.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 10:27 [#01995098]
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yeah, that logician thing isn't really plausible, I just
think it's a misunderstanding where someone compared one
difference to another and then someone interpreted it in a
different way.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-30 10:49 [#01995132]
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I agree. It could be an interesting "history of language"
project to find out how the misuse of phrases (or logically
incorrect) such as this came about.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-30 11:02 [#01995144]
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haha, you'd probably never find the origin, as it would be
something that just spread from one mistake to another, and
this would most likely have been happening since long before
it ever got recorded in any way... I could care less
probably originated as a sarcastic comment, but then it
became dead; it took on the meaning it originally drew from
sarcasm, so you aren't really sarcastic when you use it any
more, it's just a new phrase that's worked its way into
language, and it actually means what the sarcasm meant. It's
not really an uncommon phenomenon.. we had about it in
philosophy of language, and especially in connection with
dead metaphors like "the mouth of a river."


 

offline rad smiles on 2006-10-30 14:48 [#01995370]
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incisors



 

offline rad smiles on 2006-10-30 14:50 [#01995378]
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im addicted to teeth whitener and boner pills. its a never
ending cycle. i could give a toss. i could care less. same
difference.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2006-11-19 11:21 [#02004732]
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This has been my fave for a while now. "I should of known."
There are variations on it. Basically whenever "have" is
replaced with "of" when it should be "'ve", as in the latter
half of "haVE".

I'm getting annoyed just thinking about it. Maybe the reason
these things have stuck with me has to do with the English
classes we had to take as early as fourth grade.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-19 11:27 [#02004736]
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people do that all over the world.. it's just ignorance.


 


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