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Whats the diffrence between a LIE and an INFORMATION? A lie is always an information, even if it is 'wrong' |
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this one's crrap |
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a lie is wrong information. information is just information |
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Monoid. Its Friday, Give it to me. |
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Why do I think monoid either got all A's in class or Dropped out of Jr. High |
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Wrong informations are STILL informations |
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lie is an information someone gives in order to deceive someone else, while information doesn't neccessarily mean that. |
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Sure. But a LIE is still an Information |
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the point count for users of this fucking awful thread says a lot |
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i fail to see the problem here. |
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post the picture of the woman burning on the stake -it applies here as well- |
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That a LIE is NOT an INFORMATION because it is NOT TRUE |
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INFORMATION isnt always TRUE for example: if i said Moinid is getting 14 blow-jobs right now |
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INFORMATION isnt always TRUE Than it is the same as a LIE |
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Go hump a whale |
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Information as a concept bears a diversity of meanings, from everyday usage to technical settings. Generally speaking, the concept of information is closely related to notions of constraint, communication, control, data, form, instruction, knowledge, meaning, mental stimulus, pattern, perception, and representation. Many people speak about the Information Age as the advent of the Knowledge Age [citation needed] or knowledge society, the information society, and information technologies, and even though informatics, information science and computer science are often in the spotlight, the word "information" is often used without careful consideration of the various meanings it has acquired. Information as a message Information is the state of a system of interest (curiosity). Message is the information materialized. Information is a quality of a message that is sent from a sender to one or more receivers. Information is always about something (size of a parameter, occurrence of an event, ...). Viewed in this manner, information does not have to be accurate. It may be a truth or a lie, or just the sound of a kiss. Even a disruptive noise used to inhibit the flow of communication and create misunderstanding would in this view be a form of information. However, generally speaking, the amount of information in the received message increases the more accurate the message is. This model assumes there is a definite sender and at least one receiver. Many refinements of the model assume the existence of a common language understood by the sender and at least one of the receivers. An important variation identifies information as that which would be communicated by a message if it were sent from a sender to a receiver capable of understanding the message. However, in requiring the existence of a definite sender, the "information as a message" model does not attach any significance to the idea that information is something that can be extracted from an environment, e.g., through observation, reading or measure |
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I mean, it doesn't have to be. But it is POSSIBLE. Truth can not be found |
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Information is a term with many meanings depending on context, but is as a rule closely related to such concepts as meaning, knowledge, instruction, communication, representation, and mental stimulus. Simply stated, Information is a message received and understood. In terms of data, it can be defined as a collection of facts from which conclusions may be drawn. There are many other aspects of information since it is the knowledge acquired through study or experience or instruction. But overall, information is the result of processing, manipulating and organizing data in a way that adds to the knowledge of the person receiving it. Communication theory is a numerical measure of the uncertainty of an outcome, for example, we can say that "the signal contained thousands of bits of information". Communication theory tends to use the concept of information entropy, generally attributed to C.E. Shannon (see below). Another form of information is the Fisher information, a concept of R.A. Fisher. This is used in application of statistics to estimation theory and to science in general. Fisher information is thought of as the amount of information that a message carries about an unobservable parameter. It can be computed from knowledge of the likelihood function defining the system. For example, with a normal likelihood function, the Fisher information is the reciprocal of the variance of the law. In the absence of knowledge of the likelihood law, the Fisher information may be computed from normally distributed score data as the reciprocal of their second moment. Even though information and data are often used interchangeably, they are actually very different. Data is a set of unrelated information, and as such is of no use until it is properly evaluated. Upon evaluation, once there is some significant relation between data, and they show some relevance, then it is converted into information. Now this same data can be used for different purposes. Thus, till the data convey some information, they are not useful. |
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Information as a pattern Information is any represented pattern. This view assumes neither accuracy nor directly communicating parties, but instead assumes a separation between an object and its representation, as well as the involvement of someone capable of understanding this relationship. This view seems therefore to require a conscious mind. Consider the following example: economic statistics represent an economy, however inaccurately. What are commonly referred to as data in computing, statistics, and other fields, are forms of information in this sense. The electro-magnetic patterns in a computer network and connected devices are related to something other than the pattern itself, such as text to be displayed and keyboard input. Signals, signs, and symbols are also in this category. On the other hand, according to semiotics, data is symbols with certain syntax and information is data with a certain semantic. Painting and drawing contain information to the extent that they represent something such as an assortment of objects on a table, a profile, or a landscape. In other words, when a pattern of something is transposed to a pattern of something else, the latter is information. This type of information still assumes some involvement of conscious mind, of either the entity constructing the representation, or the entity interpreting it. If you accept that information can be defined merely as a pattern, does it not follow that neither utility nor meaning are necessary components of information? Surely a distinction must be made between raw unprocessed data and information which possesses utility, value or some quantum of meaning. Information may indeed be characterised as a pattern; it is a necessary condition, but not sufficient. For example a telephone book follows a specific pattern: name, address, telephone number. An individual entry does not become "informative" in some sense unless and until it possesses some degree of utility, value or meaning. For example, someone might look up a girlfriend's |
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Information is not data The words, information and data, are used interchangeably in many contexts. This may lead to their confusion. However, they are not synonyms. Often data is defined as raw facts while information is processed data. Another distinction that is made is that information is the things that we know and data is the representation of the information. As an example, we may be thinking about a favorite niece's age, who is four. We would tend to represent that with Arabic numerals (4), but we could represent it using Roman numerals (IV), tick marks (||||), or any other way we agree on. The information has not changed in each case, although the data has. Note that we tend to think of information in terms of declarative knowledge. That is, the facts we know such as a temperature, an age, etc. Information can also be skills and things we know how to do, which is called procedural knowledge. An important consequence of this distinction is that information has meaning (i.e. can inform), while data does not. Computers work with data (representations) and not information (meanings). This is why a computer will calculate the average employee number even though it is meaningless. Note that one person's information may be another's data depending on whether the recipient understand the data (or its context). Also, when someone (or something, such as a computer system) is given a fact, it may only be data, but when they make sense of (or interpret) it, often by bringing it together with other facts, it may become information. Information is usually thought of as, in a strict sense, a subset of data. However, sometimes the reverse interpretation can be taken (such as describing data as "raw information"). Data may also have a more specific sense in some fields (e.g.: referring to a certain type or set of information used in that context). When used pragmatically in everyday speech, it usually specifically refers to collections of numbers, or, in a wider sense, to any content not of relevance or |
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Well, that's what I think anyway. |
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yes but it is bad information. because it's not that the opposite is true for instance, anything could be true, even the lie, by accident. |
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Carl-5 Moinoid-0 |
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Whats the diffrence between a WRONG INFORMATION and a LIE? |
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Whats the difference bewteen APPLESAUCE and CHOCOLATE? |
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a lie is purposely wrong information |
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Get it out of your system, today. |
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How do you know it was on purpose? I can still go around and telling lies withouth ever noticing it? Or do i telll 'wrong informations' in this case |
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It's all information... you're just defining the information in more detail |
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Definition = POWER. |
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"a lunatic always tells the truth": you only lie if you have that intend |
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look, it's "information", "some information", "a bit of information", etc. not "an information" or "informations" |
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What if someone forces me to lie? |
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stop whining: the collection of lies is a subcollection of the collection of information. (every lie is information, but every piece of information is not a lie.) now, shut up and pick up some chicks. |
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formation vs information |
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Clark Vs. Squarepusher |
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lol, a lot of people around me think i'm a bastard for being honest... |
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www.monoid will do your mom.com |
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then it's still a lie because you know it is |
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13 1/2 |
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Tits |
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