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just sounds like shit really. dont know what sounds are making it sound so muddy? is it the toms? should i put the kicks into tracks of their own? i have EQ on every track, the bass is way up on the drumsets... should i compress it less and turn down the volume on the master track? add distortion on the kick? etc. just any help really. if i turn off the compressor it just peaks the main volume like hell, should i remove the compressor and just adjust every sound until its ok, or will that really make a difference? |
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also; whe one sound on a track is very loud (say a hihat) but doesnt have a ton of bass - will it affect a sound that has a lot of bass? for example if i have oen sound on a seperate track and the EQ for that track is all high frequency, now on a seperate track there is, for example, the kicks. the hihats are loud as fuck but will they still make the rest of the track sound muddy? compression just means "give the loudest noise the most precedence", right? i am stupid |
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i just flew threw the track, sounds rather nice actually, im giving it the full 3:39 listen now 1:11 in, no complaints mate |
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Be very very careful with compression on the master bus. You should use a limiter with a very high (maybe even set to zero) threshold instead to keep the dynamic range, in my opinion. |
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it sounds so muddy because you've probably used to much compression on everything. and it also sounds muddy because you have so many things going on at the same time. frequencies are interfering, everything sounds loud. no dynamics. if you will play this on a big system the muddyness will be worse. remove the compression on the master channel. turn all faders down untill the track doesn't clip anymore. if you have to put the volume really low find out what channel makes the master channel clip. use some compression on that channel (i think it'll be your bassdrum) you could use a limiter on the master but VERY gently just to get those couple of peaks out of the track. again if you limit very hard your track will sound loud but it will also sound like crap if you play it on a not so good system. (but leave the limiting as a last solution) making a good mix without using fancy multiband/maximizer/exciters or whatever is already a not so easy job. if you can't make a good mix with just eq and some compression all those fancy plugins will just make it worse. start with the kick. boost the low end of the kick. your kick right now doesn't really have any sub.and maybe add some mid to make the attack click of the kick more prominent. then go to the snare. filter out all the low end so that won't be interfering with the low end of the kick. even if you can't hear any low end filter it out anyway. it's probably there. then go to the hi-hats again do the same as you did with the snare and maybe boost some of the hi-freq. do the same thing with all your sounds. don't eq the sounds individualy but play them at the same time in a loop so you can hear what interfeers with what. then you can then rout all your drums to one channel and use a compressor on that so everything is glued together. it's all about giving sounds their own position in the spectrum. and also if you think "damn this snare needs to be louder" try to see what other sounds you can REDUCE in volume so that your snare will have |
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more presence |
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and don't forget that having all your sounds in the center also adds to the muddyness. gently start panning sounds left and right. also be carfull with using allot of reverb. lot's of reverb will....yup, you've guessed it right, it will give you a muddy sound |
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I like it, but I want to say do a stereo seperation or a vocal compressor? I don't know, maybe I am wrong. |
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awesome advice guys, working @ it now before i have to go to work. |
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you guys rule, its already sounding tons better once i turned all the volumes down, checked all sounds adjusted EQ ,,, its kinda like lego's, i guess. i cant believe i have been doing tracks for a year and never did this. fitting all the sounds into one EQ, now theres so much more room now for even more chaos than thats in there-- gotta speed to work and will post next vers when i get back, thanks again! |
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lets hear some results! |
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I know it's already been mentioned but just turning your levels right the fuck down from the start really does make a difference to your tracks. There's nothing worse than listening to stuff on headphones really loud for hours trying to get the "detail" right, you stop hearing how everything really sounds. I'm guilty of the mud/clippage myself thing myself though, it's a bad habit. |
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too many myselfs |
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any thoughts? |
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