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offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-25 08:16 [#01977058]
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for the europeans:
is it anything decent, or just a big pile of crap?
discuss.


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offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-25 08:18 [#01977061]
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just forr the eurropeans?


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2006-09-25 08:19 [#01977062]
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pile of crap.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-25 08:19 [#01977063]
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it depends.. I am opposed to centralizing control of all the
countries, but it's better that they all cooperate. Of
course, cooperation is often going to bring centralization
with it, but it isn't a necessary thing and I think there
could be less binding things that could work better than
what is now.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-09-25 08:20 [#01977065]
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screw the european union! even though there is some good
things about it.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-25 08:24 [#01977070]
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the euro is definately a good thing, makes it a hell of a
lot easier to travel. i think the EU is a good idea at
least. it is overstretching itself by incorporating so many
eastern european countries - it should make it a priority to
raise their standards of living to the "old EU" average, at
least before letting any other countries in.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-25 08:30 [#01977074]
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some americans think europe is a federal country, lolz


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-09-25 08:31 [#01977075]
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it doesn't make any difference..i prefered if we didn't
join, but doesn't hurt now either. it's all bullshit.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-25 08:49 [#01977082]
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The law side of things is a heap of shit and I cannot
comprehend how it got a lot of its (self granted) legal
powers in the first place.

A lot of the claimed benefits never really arrived, at least
not in the UK. I don't really find travel any easier: I
still have to get money changed when I go on holiday and I
still get asked for my passport when I fly and searched when
I come back from Amsterdam. I think there's nothing it has
done that couldn't of been achieved through a trade
alliance, rather than some weird pseudo-government that I
cannot vote for.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-25 09:48 [#01977105]
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I still have to get money changed when I go on
holiday


that's due to euro-sceptics like yourself

I still get asked for my passport when I fly

9/11, yeah?

and what you said about the trade alliance isn't true. A
system comparable to CAP, with CAP's flexibility, could
never have been achieved without the EU.

also, i'd like to just say how much i hate how most
euro-scepticism comes from brits, the same brits who have
been milking the EU system (especially the agricultural
subsidies), throw their arms up in the air when wholly
unneccessary and unfairly balanced agricultural subsidies to
the UK are decreased by any amount.. it's fucking annoying.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-25 09:52 [#01977108]
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my cat


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-09-25 09:57 [#01977112]
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this thread officially receives the annual OBIE Award


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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-25 10:25 [#01977117]
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Yes, good example, the CAP is a really nice stealth tax on
the poor.



 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-25 10:28 [#01977119]
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haha gg


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-26 06:29 [#01977661]
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CAP = probably a good idea. redrum's right, we and the frogs
just moan about it all the time. it was a bit of a fuck-up
back in the 70s/80s when it apparently took up 70% of the
EU's whole budget and created the "grain mountains" and
"wine lakes"
euro = good
general idea of cooperation = good
flag = pretty


 


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