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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-20 16:39 [#01974739]
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Can electric guitars/basses be run through racks as a substitute for a keyboard?
Also, for software, can an electric guitar work as a midi controller?
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-09-20 16:43 [#01974745]
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YES i too would like to know.. i want to play my guitar through a mic, and it would write up the notes onto the computah
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-20 16:44 [#01974746]
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Guitars are just so more manly than my pussy keyboard.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-09-20 16:48 [#01974749]
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-09-20 16:56 [#01974751]
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There are midi guitars
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-20 18:30 [#01974778]
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Do you know of any?
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thatne
from United States on 2006-09-20 19:03 [#01974779]
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roland makes a MIDI guitar. theres plenty of guitar synthesizers MIDI- capable. why, are you a guifaggot?
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staz
on 2006-09-20 19:08 [#01974780]
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MIDI pickups
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-09-20 20:53 [#01974793]
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I hate dickweeds who play the guitar like they are having sex, monkey-style. I'm not saying that you are one of these types. I'm saying people should play instruments to make music, not because they want to improve their image.
If you want to control a synth with a guitar just cuz it "looks manlier" then you probably haven't given much thought to why keyboards have been used in the first place for the last 30 years. You'd have to be a ridiculous(-ly good) guitarrist to be able to play some of the stuff you can do on a synth with average technique. But the matter of creating the sound is only part of the problem, sustain is an issue as well. A guitar string eventually stops vibrating (and thus stops sending signal) but a key can be held down indefinately. I'm not saying that workarounds to these problems could not eventually be created, but all the same there is a method to the madness, so to speak. <3
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-20 20:55 [#01974794]
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None of that applies.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-21 00:01 [#01974835]
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Right! The problem: U have to be in tune at a very high precission level. Slow response. Looks horrendous to some.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-21 00:08 [#01974837]
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TonePort, or some LINE 6 program does that I think. I don't know.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-21 00:23 [#01974840]
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Boss makes a bass synthesizer that doesn't need a midi pickup, it analyzes frequencies. You can use it on drum machines and shit too.
Google: Boss SYB3 or SYB5
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big
from lsg on 2006-09-21 01:42 [#01974846]
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what about native instruments guitar rig?
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-21 02:10 [#01974849]
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music is beautiful
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-21 03:08 [#01974858]
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You want a synth that allows you to strut round a stage like you're a God, rather than hunched over in the corner?
You need a Keytar. Sh-101 is good (the arpeggiator means you don't even have to be able to play to get good sounds). Sadly, I think there's only one is production at the moment and it's a toy Yamaha one.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-21 03:33 [#01974864]
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Another option is using an ebow and a filter pedal. I have the ebow, I am just waiting for my frostwave resonator to come through in the mail.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-21 03:35 [#01974866]
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Aren't frostwave the lot who do that wonderful MS-20 filter clone?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-21 03:38 [#01974867]
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Yes. Thats the resonator, the one I ordered. ;)
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mimi
on 2006-09-21 06:00 [#01974896]
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roland makes the gi 20, if I remember correctly.... I had one for about an hour and then returned it. I think roland made a couple of versions of it. I had the one that was just the pick up and midi interface. I wanted to record playing my guitar through midi and then have it trigger my synths.
But like zephyr twin was talking about, the motion of a guitar string, made it a huge problem. I had a fairly good guitar that stayed in tune well but even playing really short durations the synths would flutter around the note you were holding and of course that would also make the midi info in the computer flutter too. Sustained notes were always fluttered even with the pick up sesitivity level adjusted.
Pretty much just crap, at least the one I tried, hope this helps
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-21 06:07 [#01974897]
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what does squarepusher use ? he uses his bass as midi controller or what ? correct me right away
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2006-09-21 06:10 [#01974898]
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Tom Jenkinson works mostly analogue. : )
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-21 06:13 [#01974900]
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answer my question dude
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2006-09-21 06:25 [#01974904]
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sorry paL :)
Squarepusher sequenced his pre-2000 work on a Boss DR-660 drum machine, which wasn't designed to sequence entire songs. He uses hardware for his electronic music such as King Tubby-style spring reverbs and Akai samplers (S950 for early work, S6000 for later work). Around the year 2000, Squarepusher bought a computer with Reaktor and an Eventide Orville for digital processing. He has been known to play Fender and Warwick basses. Squarepusher claims to know more about his music equipment than the manufacturers of the products themselves.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-09-21 06:30 [#01974907]
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Synths/guitars i think youll find.
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2006-09-21 06:44 [#01974918]
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hope it helped
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-21 06:58 [#01974930]
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Alright, well thanks. I talked to a friend who knows about this stuff and Ill head down to the store today to hear some of it first.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-21 07:14 [#01974934]
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not much, dude. overall the text just reminds me of the fact that he plays bass, which i already know. i still don't know more about HOW he uses the bass in his music-making
but thanks for the copy/paste effort anyway
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-21 09:40 [#01974980]
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MIDI -> reaktor most probably
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-09-21 10:40 [#01974990]
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alice deejay said it best
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-09-21 10:55 [#01975001]
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uh, actually, yes it does. In fact it almost completely applies, except for the monkey-sex part. I didn't mean to come off harsh (I like you, I swear), I was just trying to present the obvious truths.
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2006-09-21 11:05 [#01975017]
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steve mcqueen uncovered the answer within the copy/paste text...
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2006-09-21 11:07 [#01975021]
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yes :)
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i'll stay as straight forward as i can from now on. takes all the fun away though...
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-21 11:08 [#01975023]
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Guitar synth.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-21 11:55 [#01975074]
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I am more familiar with a guitar than a keyboard. Also, decent keyboards are more expensive than a guitar which would "feel" as good, relatively.
Global Goon also plays the bass, I believe. I was thinking of someone else who does earlier, but I forgot who.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-21 12:54 [#01975146]
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synths
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2006-09-21 12:57 [#01975148]
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get this definitely
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big
from lsg on 2006-09-21 14:02 [#01975215]
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you should set it real close to the strings anyway: there's latency, that sucks
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mimi
on 2006-09-21 17:13 [#01975349]
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i tried everything possible, already returned it, like.......3 years ago
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zero-cool
on 2006-12-10 03:02 [#02015246]
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teh modern bass guitar at its finest
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