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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-16 17:36 [#01972179]
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With a few exceptions, I'm noticing that big hollywood
movies have dreadful CGI these days. I'm not really a fan of
action movies with copious amounts of GCI to cover a paper
thin plot and characters anyway, but at least films of the
mid-ninteys did the computer animation thing more
convincingly. Even the new Bond movie suffers from this new
trend, and The Mommy Returns is on ITV3 right now and half
the time the computer animation resembles the sort of thing
you'd except from a videogame released in 1998. Why are
things going backwards?



 

offline axion from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-09-16 17:38 [#01972181]
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who cares ?
not me


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-16 17:39 [#01972182]
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Because they want to clear the middle gorund between movies
and games until they become indistinguishable and then all
culture will be directed at 14 years meaning it will be

Shit
and
Rubbish
and
Cheap to do
and
Sell loads


 

offline axion from planet rock (Sweden) on 2006-09-16 17:41 [#01972183]
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what will be left for us grown up boys then ?


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-09-16 18:02 [#01972196]
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It all depends on the budget... a movie with smaller funding
is going to naturally have second rate CGI.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-16 18:08 [#01972203]
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John Carpenter's The Thing still looks awesome as does
Alien.
All that latex stuff is far better than CGI when done
properly.


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-16 19:24 [#01972284]
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I hate Disney/Pixar. very low brow low low brow cheap. dime
a dozen and has nothing on the 40s hand painted works.

final fantasy (not at all my thing) advent children looks
really good,
could see a remake of Akira done this way.


 

offline staz on 2006-09-16 19:29 [#01972286]
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i think the new peter jackson movies have very well done cg,
to be honest, but mostly cg is still as bad as it's always
been. only really high budget movies win out because they're
the only ones who can afford staying on the cutting edge.
the gap of comparison becomes larger all the time. all in
all, though, i think creative costumes/make-up and well done
REAL sets are way, way better, but they cost shitloads more
to do than doing stuff on a comp. that's why those lotr
movies look great too, they could afford a shit ton of
extras and fancy costumes/equipment. well, i think they look
great, anyway.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-16 19:38 [#01972289]
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I didn't think King Kong looked all that great.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-16 19:39 [#01972291]
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I CAN'T RREMEMBERR MY MOTHERR FUCKING PASSWORRD.


 

offline staz on 2006-09-16 19:39 [#01972292]
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didn't look half as good as lotr, but i think the cg was
decent, even though it ignored the laws of physics.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-16 19:39 [#01972293]
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but you'rre a fucking wankerr so who carres, not me.


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-09-16 20:10 [#01972310]
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CGI is, getting better.
its your eyes that are fucked...or advancing


 

offline OK on 2006-09-16 23:24 [#01972367]
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because they try to hard for it to look real, in the mid
90's they were trying to make it llok cool.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-17 03:45 [#01972402]
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It's cos it's becoming more common.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-17 05:45 [#01972448]
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Duelin' Firemen has AWESOME CGI!


 

offline Dinky Pimp from United Kingdom on 2006-09-17 15:43 [#01972784]
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Swears is right about The Thing and Alien, phucking
awesumb.

I haven't been impressed by effects since Terminator 2.

(okay, so I saw something on Blade that was good, but I
never watched the whole film)


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-09-17 16:55 [#01972817]
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blade is awsome

watch out for ghost rider for some ultimate bad cg. whoo!


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-09-17 17:21 [#01972826]
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peter jackson is the dj basshunter of the movie industry


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-17 17:22 [#01972828]
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Jurassic Park still looks very pretty, mind. Thirteen years
on, or whenever it was out.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-09-17 17:23 [#01972829]
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i don't get it


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-09-17 17:35 [#01972835]
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I think its cause weve reached the point where people think
anything can be done with CGI, where as in Terminator 2 for
example it was only a few very specific effects that were
done really well.

even big budget films have CGI that I think doesnt cut it,
The Matrix 2 and 3 for example, and some parts of LOTR,
Spiderman... all have the horrible CG people editted with
live action and it looks absolutely rubbish to me.


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-17 18:08 [#01972845]
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I dont know about you but I would like a return to the
technicolor
and vista vision type things from the 60's - 70's.
everything was so gritty and yet beautiful at the same time.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-09-17 18:18 [#01972846]
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I watched a film last week where a man knocked a t rex off a
cliff by hitting it in the head with a JCB. all in stop
frame animation. then on friday I saw a couple become
encased in a giant honeycomb structure by a giant wasp,
again in stop frame animation. Bring back stop frame!
Gromit!


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-09-17 20:06 [#01972875]
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true.))
*when the words are the sculputures of the thinkings
we got the Art of pure intention to give the joy.

.....and i had no idea what CGI was,but i rent
Spiderman dvds on the Garofanos Video club....,and you
express this idea of the new FX computer used on Cinema
Art.

heheee ...im tired now.

Z z z z



Attached picture

 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2006-09-17 21:18 [#01972885]
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CGI is worse now because studios are cutting corners,
thinking that their computers can do stuff faster than what
they really can. Terminator 2 still has the best CGI after
some 15 years. Back then they knew it would take weeks to
make 3 seconds of animation, so they put their heart and
soul into it. There are new movies with great FX, stuff like
LOTR.


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-17 21:29 [#01972887]
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Stop motion animation is badass.

I really wish they'd go back to the basics.
even do a movie in Black and White. Sin city was
PERFECT in B&W. I love technicolor of the 60's like
in Forbidden Planet and Mario Bava's Planet of the
Vampires.
movies from that era are so beautiful.


 

offline optimus prime on 2006-09-18 00:18 [#01972905]
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i agree. but i like the way the cheap cgi was implemented in
mirrormask.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-09-18 09:09 [#01973120]
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Them Final Fantasy movies there are pretty good


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-09-18 11:00 [#01973184]
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i dl mirrormask but it no working :(

pans labryinth looks quite lovely. only a little cgi i hope


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-18 12:03 [#01973238]
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don't know, don't care.

i go to movies to watch good actors act the work of good
screenwriters.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-09-18 12:13 [#01973240]
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Man... thats so unique... you really set an example for the
rest of us


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-18 12:18 [#01973242]
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i just think there's a strange importance put on special
effects these days...

i don't understand it


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-09-18 12:20 [#01973243]
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.........................................


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-18 15:16 [#01973369]
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well then lets put good actors acting the work of good
screenwriters with the production values of a home video and
see if it's worth watching?

or better yet put them infront of a projection of a typical
windows screensaver lets say scrolling marquee and see if it
is worth the watch.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-18 15:56 [#01973392]
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I make over 1 million dollars a day writing movie reviews
that simply say "Great special effects", that you won't see
published anywhere, but get quoted on film adverts. For a
cheaper job I simply say "Fantastic" or "Explosive".

So, please, the more CGI, the better.


 

offline Chin Bwoy Phat from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-18 16:45 [#01973414]
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They don't use Amiga A4000/040's with a Video Toaster any
more. That's why.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-09-18 20:32 [#01973475]
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yeah, perfect example was 'The Day After Tomorrow' where
they CGI'd those wolves, poorly. I mean, come on. how hard
is it to get a couple wolves to sniff around in a boat?
granted a lot of the CGI in that movie was fucking rad. it
made the movie watchable when really, it shouldn't have
been.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-09-18 21:31 [#01973508]
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CGI runs otherwise good films. I immediatley get turned off
by it. Unless its landscape or audiences, like stadiums.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-09-18 21:32 [#01973509]
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runs=ruins


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-09-20 09:36 [#01974475]
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i agree.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2006-09-20 13:14 [#01974617]
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Because they're using it wrong. They're overdoing it when
they should be subtle. Also it's due to the style some
artists employ today. Especially when it comes to creatures,
they're often crafted in popular graffiti style/comic book
style with bellbottom limbs and ridiculous anatomy which
drastically takes away the realistic look and feel of it.
Hairs are made too fluffy like they were washed in too much
fabric softener. Eyes look too wet and movement is sometimes
too smooth. When working in fine detail all these things may
look awesome but when seen in the big picture the effect is
awkward..............


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-09-20 16:42 [#01974743]
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I do like CGI for overt CGI animation. Like the Incredibles.
I thought that was really well done.


 


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